Lily: there is always one
Lonewolf: This is a fun, holiday chat
Lonewolf: Thought it would be nice to hear each other's plans
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LittleMan: so do i judi
Lonewolf: so anyone want to start?
Kim^^: i have no plans:):)
Lonewolf: nothing Kim?
LittleMan: i will
Lily: christmas day here very busy..........
Lonewolf: ok LM you tell us
Lily: k, LM< u first
LittleMan: Well, having divorced parents is tough.
Lonewolf: go for it Derek
LittleMan: We have all my dad's family over for Christmas Eve.
Lonewolf: Do you live with Dad?
LittleMan: We eat dinner and have one of our uncles dress up like santa
LittleMan: have a rutine
Kim^^: which one?
Lily: lol, sounds ok so far
LittleMan: At our mom's we just open our gifts and then go to who ever house Christmas is at
LittleMan: That's pretty much it
Lonewolf: good food?
Kim^^: you live with mmom or dad?
LittleMan: Mon., Tues. at mom's
LittleMan: Wed., Thurs., at dad's
LittleMan: Weekend at mom's
Lily: we still put out stockings
LittleMan: next week is vice verca
Lonewolf: really Lily
Mooooooo: im here
Lily: filled with little things
LittleMan: we used to
Lonewolf: both kids come home for christmas?
Lily: emma is 25, wakes us at dawn
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Lily: well, chris has his own place
Lily: hi wacky:))
LittleMan: hi bri
Lonewolf: does he come for stocking
Lily: we open presents in morning
wacky: hi all
Lily: later, yes
Lily: friends drop by in afternoon
Lonewolf: yes brian
wacky: u see my P/c hun?
Lonewolf: meeting rules wacky
LittleMan: wb Laura
Lonewolf: who's nect?
Lonewolf: sorry you weren't through?
wacky: lily tell LW what I got u
Lily: my nicest gift this year.........
LittleMan: what was it?
Lily: is in pleasant hill at wacky's..........
Lily: a pine home entertainment centre
Lonewolf: and is?
Lily: wacky, describe??
LittleMan: Brian buddy
Lonewolf: simone what are your plans
wacky: yup for house was part of our agreement
Lonewolf: oh sorry again
Lonewolf: makes sense
Lily: lol, we not finished judi
LittleMan: house agreement?
Lonewolf: entertainment center first then house
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wacky: is light pine honey finish bookshelves stereo cabnet vcr shelf really nice
wacky: Lily moving here eventually LM
Lily: it sounds great, ill see it soon
LittleMan: oh, i didnt know that
Lonewolf: they are getting married LM
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WonderW: we open gifts on Chrisrmas eve at my mom's, taking it easy this year because my mom is trying to biy a farm
wacky: or as close as we can get to it
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WonderW: wb simon
Mooooooo: im here
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Lonewolf: a farm?
wacky: Lara u do XMas GERMAN style?
simone1: i am back
wacky: yea opens Xmas eve
WonderW: yes, but no sausage]
Lily: i have noewegian friend who got marzipan pig each year
wacky: the Xmas is day of worship and family all u do is eat after mid morn service
WonderW: we are german, actually
wacky: Yes lara I know do u do Advent TOO?
Lily: yes, wacky, she still have tree on xmas eve
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wacky: do u do liekooken cookies?
Lily: lol, i do ADVENT
WonderW: what are they?
Lily: i buy Advent calender
wacky: they hard to make kinda like gingerbread but take weeks to ferment
WonderW: me too, often, but didn't this year
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Lonewolf: I'm Catholic so we have adventwreath
Lily: me too, in c of e
haa: thicky - i forgot!
WonderW: my mom had one last year
Lonewolf: I love the advent wreath
Kim^^: hey i get my dog on new year's now i have plans for the holidays:))))
haa: hi people!
Lonewolf: 3 purple candles and 1 pink
wacky: i hope u like Xmas gift lily
WonderW: lol kim
Lonewolf: Kim you can come to my house
Lonewolf: hi haa
Lily: o, yes, im sure i will
Kim^^: thanks judi but i'll be fine here:)
WonderW: do you make the weeath, Judi?
wacky: haa and me gonna get drunk
Lonewolf: Laura what do u do Christmas day
haa: hey judi
WonderW: not much, we eat
Lonewolf: yes Laura
WonderW: sometimes bake
haa: yep yep yep - drunk
WonderW: and then drop cookies at neighbors
wacky: lol helen
wacky: Yes Judi?
Lonewolf: what are ur plans
wacky: going to spend w/ helen
Lonewolf: so helen what have u got planned?
wacky: I will miss u love
Lonewolf: ok u 2
WonderW: I think that's great, Brian, I have a sense of pride about it
haa: lily you can come too
Lily: lol, thx haa
WonderW: that you won't be alone
wacky: and u know i have best gift waiting there for me...... accessibility!
Lily: yes wacky, im so glad u going to helens
haa: we have dinner, wine, pc fun, presents, candy, pie and lots of fun planned!
Lonewolf: wake up daniel
Lonewolf: christmas plans
Lily: sounds great, haa
Lonewolf: hey I want to go to helens
Lily: me too
Lily: me too
Lily: me too
Lonewolf: I'll bring Kim
Kim^^: to where?
Kim^^: ok any really good lookin men gonna be there?
Lonewolf: it isn't snowing in ca is it?
haa: santa haa's place
Lily: we're all going kim
Kim^^: allllll right:)
Lonewolf: bigg house helen?
wacky: yea but I am taken Kim
Kim^^: i know:)
WonderW: I think we may make a pie, good idea
simone1: i am still here
Lonewolf: what kind Laura?
haa: it snowed a bit last Sunday but now tis just cold :)
Lonewolf: I asked u earluier dear
Lonewolf: what are ur plans
simone1: seeing my parents tomorrow making thru tonight is the hard part.
wacky: well we're here Simone
simone1: very rough right now
simone1: so much is hitting me really hard :(
Lonewolf: how are u getting to ur parents?
haa: not really that big judi but the house expands to hold family and friends ho ho ho
simone1: I'm meeting them here tomorrow and we're going back to their house.
Lonewolf: mine too haa
wacky: yea santa haa's even sending sleigh and helper Elf to my front door
Lonewolf: That's nice simone
Lonewolf: wow wacky
simone1: yeah :)
wacky: Oh helen.... i gotta be back some time sat
Lonewolf: ho long will u be there simone?
WonderW: I want to make a pecan pie
simone1: I'll be there till saturday
WonderW: sorry it took me so long to respond
haa: okay bri np
Lonewolf: iz ok
Lonewolf: well our plans got all changed around this year
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simone1: sometimes I get reminded about things and it hits all at once.
Lonewolf: usually e do gifts on christmas eve
haa: modem man off to togos for din din
Lonewolf: and eat all day christmas
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haa: i am typing by myself
wacky: lol should I bring Ca$h helen?
Lonewolf: but due to illness etc e are just doing christmas day
Lonewolf: hi ouchy
wacky: and doing a fine liesurely job my dear
ouchy: hello Lonewolf
Lily: hi ouchy
ouchy: hi there Lily
Lonewolf: one of my granddaughters is a donkey in the children's mass on christmas eve
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Kim^^: we can say hi tonite? hi ouchy
haa: i do not think we need that bri
Lonewolf: so all grandkids going to see cousin b donkey
ouchy: hello Kim, good to see you :)
wacky: Hi Chris
Lonewolf: only wildchild will be here Christmas eve
ouchy: always a pleasure Bri :)
Lonewolf: we're doing gifts christmas morning
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Lonewolf: everyone brings food or cooks here
wacky: was teasin helen
simone1: i am still here just taking a phone call.
Lonewolf: the big highlight every year is red velve cake
haa: hi ais
Lily: hi ais
Ais: hi all
Lonewolf: and 24 hr salad
Lonewolf: danger this year though
ouchy: hi ais
Lonewolf: daughter is making 24 hr salad
Lonewolf: Ais want to share your holiday plans?
Ais: just visiting with family :)
Ais: 2 christmas dinners..one at in-laws and one at home :)
Lonewolf: what about you ouchy?
WonderW: will you be alone
ouchy: I'm here
ouchy: just having hard time, let me compose myself....
* simone1 is still here
Lonewolf: simone or ouchy
simone1: is still here
Lonewolf: speak already
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Lonewolf: welcome viper
Viper: thank you :)
Ais: hi viper:)
Lily: is very quiet
Viper: hi Ais :)
Lonewolf: we are talking about christmas plans
Viper: I see :)
Lonewolf: what are yours
ouchy: I hope I didnt upset anyone
simone1: i was saying, I'm heading to my parent's house tomorrow, it's just been really rough lately.
ouchy: please forgive
simone1: tonight is just plain bad.
Viper: well, to eat as much as possible I guess...and just relax some..
Kim^^: not i ouchy
wacky: is ok Bud but we worry about our friends
Ais: good plan viper
simone1: the past month has been really difficult.
ouchy: chrstmas blues
WonderW: no, Chris, we just care
Viper: hehe, yeah..
simone1: I feel like I am barely hanging on.
simone1: ouchy: starting there.
Lonewolf: viper are u male or fe?
simone1: everything seems to push all the buttons at once.
Viper: Lonewolf: male..
Lonewolf: I'm sure the holidays egg that on simone
Lonewolf: figured when u said eat and relax
simone1: judi: probably. I was feeling bad before thanksgiving.
Lily: it can be very hard time simone and ouchy
Ais: lol lw
* wacky is male (at least I was last time I cathed...but
simone1: but I just get tired of being reminded. just wheeling thru the mall a month ago I nearly lost it.
Viper: actually, I need to study for a math test aswell, but I don't think I'm gonna get around to that, until a couple of days before..
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wacky: yea i had a hard time the last cpl days too simone
* wacky likes that rule
Lonewolf: hi Sam we are discussing Christmas plans
Lily: bonsoir, sam
simone1: where's SamA?
* wacky seconds motion...
Lonewolf: I was teasing viper about eating and resting simone
Lonewolf: traditional male role
simone1: judi: ah
SamB: SamA is sleeping ;)
Lily: all in favour??
SamB: allo lily, ca va?
Lonewolf: women cook and do dishes
simone1: I wished things didn't set me off like that. that time at the mall I just happened to pass a shop window.
Kim^^: point of order- there is no motion on the floor to second
Lonewolf: what kind of shop?
simone1: toy shop
Lily: bien, sam, vous?
Lily: lol, kim
SamB: ca pourais aller mieux, mais ca va
Lonewolf: still getting counseling?
simone1: yes judi.
Lonewolf: how's it going
simone1: it's doing fine.
Lonewolf: these are the type of feelings you need to explore in counseling simone-it will help
simone1: but that incident just hit me.
simone1: the counseling has helped alot.
Lonewolf: I'm sure those things will
Lonewolf: Sam what are ur plans?
simone1: it was just something that built up and passing the shop triggered it.
SamB: my plans....
SamB: try to forget my lost love... try to rest a little... and get ready for my next tournament :))))
Kim^^: where did you leave your love?
Lonewolf: what kind of tournament
SamB: i hope to win... again!
SamB: Karate Tournament
WonderW: I love you all, merry Christmas
WonderW: bye :)
Ais: bye ww :)
Lonewolf: merry christmas laura
Lily: good, i thought you meant a duel
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Lonewolf: ouchy are u back?
haa: bye ww
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* SamB hate violence
Lonewolf: love u Laura
ouchy: yes I'm here
Lily: ouchy, talk to us..............
Lonewolf: don't have to share unless u want to
SamB: ready? for what?
ouchy: Just hard.... I fight so much all the time
Lonewolf: ouchy having sadness problem
ouchy: I guess I complain too much
SamB: ok :(
ouchy: wife yelled at me once again for complaining
Lonewolf: we are friends hre ouchy
Lonewolf: we all complain
ouchy: I know. thanks.
Lily: lol, this one syllable night?
Lily: we all gripe hear
Lonewolf: you can say anything here
ouchy: I just said ouch....
ouchy: got yelled at
ouchy: then got yelled at cause my eyes welled up
Lonewolf: you can say ouch
ouchy: said she didnt even know why I bothered
Lonewolf: that's abuse ouchy
ouchy: fact is I'm sick. We both hate it.
Lonewolf: emotional abuse
Lily: it is ABUSE chris, i know
Lonewolf: no reason for you to be abused
simone1: darn hold on a sec!
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ouchy: I'm tougher than that. I only take what I feel I deserve
* simone1 will be back in a few minutes!
Ais: nobody deserves abuse no matter what
Lonewolf: k simone
Lily: toughness doesnt enter into it
Lonewolf: it doesn't ouchy
Lonewolf: because we are not fully functionalpeople we often feel inadequate
ouchy: I dont feel I'm being abused. This is a really hard time for her. Christmas is presented as needing to be perfect
Lonewolf: abuse just adds to that inadequacy
ouchy: I'm not perfect thats fer darn sure lol
wacky: chris u remember my story??
ouchy: yes I do
Ais: ouchy: i was pysically abused by a boyfriend i had..and believe me..i know you think you might deserve it..but you don't...i learned that
Lily: and tell him mine, wacky
wacky: well now i dont take sh*from no one bud
SamB: can someone help me...
Lily: no, me neither
wacky: ok I will but have to write it all out
Lonewolf: sure Sam
SamB: my sister mixed up all the colors on the irc device
Lily: cud u sometime???
SamB: i want to get them back right
Lonewolf: ask wackyin p/c
ouchy: this is my problem: I am totally capable some days. Others, I am total NONFUNCTIONAL. The question always is araised as to am I REALLY that sick.... or just deciding to skip out on the day.
Ais: black eyes and broken fingers..and i thought it was all my fault and that i deserved it.
Lonewolf: what is your disability?
Lonewolf: oh Heidi
Lily: heidi, i never knew
Lonewolf: me either
ouchy: big 'ol hole in spinal cord (syringomyelia) , Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, Myoclonus, and I caught mono to boot. :(
Ais: it's not something i talk about..but i don't want anyone else to go thru it
ouchy: mono is kickin me hard
Lonewolf: and anyone questions your disability?
wacky: ok chris no the idiots version pls?
ouchy: question my ability cause somtimes I'm just fine
* simone1 needs to be potty trained!
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Lonewolf: a lot of disabilities are like that
ouchy: I have a 16 inch hole in the center of my spinal cord, and a disease that deteriorates my smooth muscle and tendons, and a shaking and sezuire disorder.
Lonewolf: in my early arthritis days I was like that
simone1: wacky, lily, gets a little irritating right in the middle of a chat having to stop like that!
wacky: hey mine question all the time I confuse ppl
Lonewolf: lol simone
simone1: sometimes it's hard for me to explain my condition because there's not one word for it.
simone1: judi: :)
wacky: yea dont I know it I usually dont know i gotta go till I GOTTA GO
ouchy: lol dont I know it simone
ouchy: jinx bri
ouchy: Bye Bri
simone1: well wacky, I had already gone, just realized I needed to change.
ouchy: oh silly me
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ouchy: your not leaving lolol
simone1: ouchy: you're ok then you just suddenly get really uncomfortable.
wacky: i aint leaving
simone1: oh sorry about that ouchy
Lonewolf: I'm so sorry but I am closing the meeting
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ouchy: lol I know that now hahaha
Lonewolf: welcome Jill
Lily: i undrtand sim
wacky: ok judi
Ais: hi jill
Jillb: Thanks lonewolf
ouchy: hello Jill
Lonewolf: please feel free to continue
Jillb: Hi ais
Lily: k, sis
Lonewolf: I just can't sit any longer
Jillb: Hi ouch
simone1: lily: gets a little frustrating. more of a hassle than anything else. that and I can't get one of those neat clear backpacks I've seen.
Lonewolf: I will close log but go ahead and continue
Ais: take care judi..merry christmas :)
simone1: but other than that I handle it ok :)
Lonewolf: Love you all
Lonewolf: Merry Christmas
ouchy: Merry Christmas Judi
Jillb: This is a friendly room
Lily: good, sim:)
simone1: same yo you judi :)