HelloKit: logging is on
AmyWonder: I didn't understand
Mooooooo: hey al2!!!
al2: ahoy mooooooooooooooooooooooo
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* HelloKit steps up to the podium...
* Mooooooo still wants to meet al2's nurse :o)
HelloKit: Hehe... just kidding.
al2: ah... moooo remembers that one!
Mooooooo: howdy wcg
Silvester: Test it Mooooooo....
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* HelloKit picks up the microphone...
al2: haven't seen her for 17 years, mooooo
Silvester: lol Carly...
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* Mooooooo listens
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Mooooooo: howdy Alien
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* DopeHat is listening
* Silvester sleeps...
HelloKit: ARE WE READY?
* HelloKit slaps Silvester around a bit with a plate of
AlienDog: Howdee Mooooooo
mon_ange: my lag is SOOO bad
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mon_ange: maybe this is better
HelloKit: Hey Mooooooo... gimme that mic back!
AlienDog: Howdee HelloKit!
Mooooooo: Hiya Chill
* Mooooooo holds his breath until HelloKit speaks
chill: howdy hi
mon_ange: hehe moo :D
al2: speech!.... speech!
* Mooooooo is turning blue
Mimi_: I'm back :o)
Mooooooo: wb Mimi
* DopeHat kicks mooooooo in the gut
HelloKit: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T ALREADY KNOW, TONIGHT'S TOPIC IS ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR RELATIONSHIPS AND THOSE OF PEOPLE WITHOUT DISABILITIES.
mon_ange: yeah wb
HelloKit: FIRST QUESTION IS...
Silvester: Ah...that is meant with AB
HelloKit: HOW MANY OF US GET HELP OR CARE FROM OUR PARTNERS?
* HelloKit raises her hand...
DopeHat: i do
Mimi_: no me
Mimi_: not me
chill: not here
mon_ange: not me either
AmyWonder: I do
Mooooooo: I don't have a partner any more, but she did help me get an ulcer
al2: of those who have partners
Mimi_: *LOL* Daniel
duckie: I get very little help
DopeHat: i have no partner
AmyWonder: i do
al2: i don't
Silvester: I do..
HelloKit: AMYWONDER, DO YOU THINK THAT AFFECTS YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
duckie: I have a partner he is AB and I get very little help
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al2: duckie... do you need much help?
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mon_ange: my boyfriend's AB and i get no help at all......but most of the time i dont ask for it
HelloKit: AND DUCKIE, WHAT KIND OF HELP DO YOU GET?
AmyWonder: yes Sometime he treats me like hiss child
* HelloKit gets a lot of help from her sweetie.
Mimi_: why don't you ask, angel? you don't need it, or don't want it?
al2: are you there?
HelloKit: AMY - DOES HE TEND TO HELP TOO MUCH?
DopeHat: hellokit is lucky
mon_ange: i want him to do it because he WANTS to not out of pity
mon_ange: so far, he hasnt showed that he wants to
AmyWonder: not really
duckie: I need very little help...I try to be as independt as possible
Silvester: This is the right way...
duckie: I rather not ask unless I really need it
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AmyWonder: he llectures me
Mooooooo: heya Jeff
Mimi_: angel, maybe he's shy :o)
HelloKit: ABOUT WHAT, AMY?
mon_ange: i try to be independent but sometimes its hard to be
Pyro: heyt dan :)
Mimi_: Hey Jeff :o)
DopeHat: hi jeff
Pyro: hi mimi, keith :)
AmyWonder: when we talk about religion
al2: yeah, some people are reluctant to offer, probably only from uncertainty
duckie: sometimes I get tired of being independent and just would like to be helped but
duckie: I don't want someone to help me out of pity
chill: who would?
mon_ange: i hate it with a passion when people pity me
HelloKit: My boyfriend told me he was afraid I would be offended if he offered to help.
Mimi_: al2 - I can attest to that, as an AB sometimes I'm unsure :o/ (I have disabled family members)
mon_ange: if someone's help offends me, i'd be the first one to tell them
* Silvester wants to leave the meeting...because he have to
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DopeHat: it never hurts to ask
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Mimi_: that's good, angel
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Mimi_: Keith, once you get reamed for offering unwanted help, you're reluctant to offer again :o)
Mooooooo: take care Sven
HelloKit: Sometimes I get mad when someone offers me help, but I do overreact...
DopeHat: i'm sorry that happened
HelloKit: I always regret it.
AmyWonder: He ddoes not try to do everything for me
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Mimi_: brb - doorbell
al2: getting reamed for asking is the other person's hangup, not necassarily anybody else's
Mooooooo: I only get upset when someone insists on helping after I ask them not to
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* HelloKit agrees with Mooooooo.
Mooooooo: howdy John
mon_ange: its like they cant take no for an answer
DopeHat: yeah me too
Mooooooo: moral busibodies
Mimi_: I'm back
* al2 agrees with hellokit
CincyKid: Howdy Dan, How do everyone!
Mooooooo: I do well
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HelloKit: Pretty good, John.
mon_ange: i hate it when people talk to me like i'm some little kid with a learning disability and cant understand anything
DopeHat: sometimes i hate to ask for help
Mooooooo: Jody :o)
Mimi_: It's OK, Keith, you just have to get to know the person better, usually, and it works itself out
* HelloKit nods to mon_ange.
jdejan: Hi Moooooo!
AlienDog: Floks with Learning dsiabilities CAN undrestand thnigs though!!!
duckie: I'm learning to accept help
jdejan: I went to another server and there was no one in the chat room
Mimi_: Hey Jody!! :o)
jdejan: hi mimi
Mooooooo: Jody, did you read your mail?
jdejan: hi DH
AmyWonder: Maybe it's because he is older than me
jdejan: what mail?
HelloKit: DO YOU THINK A DISABILITY CAN BRING A COUPLE CLOSER?
Mooooooo: are you on the mailing list?
Mooooooo: It either brings you closer or tears you apart
mon_ange: i'm not saying that alien but i am saying that they shouldnt talk to me like that ya know what i mean?
al2: yes, it can... depends on the individuals
duckie: yes..if you let it
mon_ange: just cuz i cant walk doesnt mean i cant think for myself
DopeHat: i agree with moo
HelloKit: I feel mine has brought Chris and me closer.
Mimi_: My husband was a little afraid at first when I told him I had epilepsy
jdejan: Dan, how do I get on the mailing list?
AlienDog: Jsut cuase I can't wlak AND have severe learning dsiabllities dsoent; mean I cna;'t thnik either.
Mooooooo: fill out the mailing list form
HelloKit: He feeds me my meals, and he thinks it's romantic. :o)
al2: I can relate to both sides, I was AB (and misunderstanding of disabilities) until 28 yrs old
* AlienDog thinks tish palce needs a betttre undrestnadnig
HelloKit: AlienDog, I understand what mon_ange is saying... perhaps 'learning disability' wasn't the greatest choice of words.
mon_ange: no it wasnt
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mon_ange: didnt mean to offend him if i did
Mimi_: It's OK, angel
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HelloKit: Hi Spoted_1
Mimi_: Hey Spoted_1 :o)
Mooooooo: hello spoted
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mon_ange: hi spoted
Mimi_: welcome dwellers :o)
Mooooooo: hi dwellers
mon_ange: hey dwellers
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al2: ahoy dwellers
DopeHat: welcome spoted_1
Mooooooo: Next question?
HelloKit: My mind is blank...
al2: what's the capitol of Libya?
Mooooooo: Washington DC
HelloKit: ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS?
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Mooooooo: Hi SweetHP
* al2 thinks
DopeHat: i don't like to date because i need help
SweetHP: Sorry I'm late.
Mooooooo: np :o)
al2: I'm too afraid to date
AmyWonder: Mim: did he act differently when he fouund out?
Mimi_: Keith, what's wrong with a little help? (sorry about the total TAB question...)
Mimi_: well, he was a little worried, but never said anything...I never noticed it at the time, it was only recently that he told me
DopeHat: i feel uncomfortable
HelloKit: I did too, DopeHat... you get over it.
Mooooooo: who came up with TAB?
mon_ange: my boyfriend was a little intimidated by me but once we got together and started dating and stuff, he chilled out
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Mimi_: at the time, though, Amy, I was pretty much in severe denial and didn't really want to talk about it, I certainly wasn't open about it, which of course made him feel uncomfortable
HelloKit: Good question, Mooooooo... I have no idea but I like it. :o)
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Mooooooo: I dont :o(
Mimi_: I kind of feel like you're not giving other people a chance, Keith, if you refuse their companionship because you don't want their help
al2: if I hit the 'tab' key, will I be able to walk?
jdejan: what is TAB
Mimi_: TAB - temporarily able bodied
Mooooooo: It sounds like wishing harm on someone
Mimi_: I'm TAB until my next seizure :o)
AmyWonder: lol al2
SweetHP: If you think about it...most everyone is tab.
jdejan: oh, I guess that applies to me too
DopeHat: well i wouldn't go on a dinner date
jdejan: not the seizure part
Mimi_: that's too bad Keith...I think you should try
mon_ange: ya never know unless ya try
Mooooooo: Im not dating until I move
CincyKid: Where is your favorite place to go for a first date or meeting? Anybody?
jdejan: why not? and move to where?
Mooooooo: Dinner and a movie
mon_ange: dinner and a movie
DopeHat: i don't know of any women would like to help on a date
Mimi_: you have to give ABs a chance, too...some of them are good people worth knowing *g*
Mooooooo: then a late night walk
mon_ange: thats where i went for my first date =)
HelloKit: I don't think it is, Mooooooo... it's more of a reminder that no one is 'perfect' forever... that they really aren't that much different from us.
jdejan: hey moooo, why not (dating) and move where?
Mimi_: the beach with a baguette, a double creme brie, some grapes and a bottle of red wine
al2: mimi... yup, but hard to 'see' that quality
* Mooooooo is moving to Dallas
jdejan: HOT!! I have a friend down there
AmyWonder: when, moo/
Mooooooo: thats not a date, thats a seduction
Mooooooo: very soon Amy
jdejan: Moooooo, behave yourself
DopeHat: people go on dates to have fun
al2: anybody here live in aridzona?
Mimi_: I know, but I have experienced rejection probably on those grounds...kind of sucked
jdejan: mimi.... make that white wine and maybe you've got something
Mimi_: Jody - :oD
Mimi_: that was my best first date
al2: I suggest cabernet sauvignon
jdejan: I like to go somewhere off-beat
Mimi_: twice, actually
Mimi_: I suggest a Georges DuBeouf Beaujolais Villages
DopeHat: i think i am very self concious
* al2 is self conscious, too
jdejan: you shouldn't be DH. you come across as a very nice person...
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al2: that's one of the blessings of the internet
Mooooooo: hey J!
DopeHat: women don't like nice guys
Mimi_: hey jlubin :o)
HelloKit: I agree, al2.
mon_ange: i think we're all self conscious at one point but you gotta think...hey i'm just as good as everyone else here.
Mimi_: that's not true, Keith
HelloKit: If you guys met me in person, you wouldn't believe it was the same person.
Mooooooo: bery true Angel
SweetHP: Since when?! Nice guys are hard to find!
al2: dope... then every woman would like me
Mimi_: same here, Carly
dWeLlErS: This is for all the newnett users that are corently fed up with the lag here if you are one of them then you have a choice just type babylon.beyondirc.net and then join #eden or #services it is lag free and great ircops to!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoted_1: This is for all the newnett users that are corently fed up with the lag here if you are one of them then you have a choice just type babylon.beyondirc.net and then join #eden or #services it is lag free and great ircops to!!!!!!!!!!!
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jdejan: hey, DH, yes they do..... once they have smartened up a bit
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mon_ange: got that right sweet, they are hard to find...
Mimi_: I married a nice guy, Keith :o)
DopeHat: i'm actually a very shy person
Mimi_: I had to leave the country, Angel *g*
mon_ange: i'm goin' out with a nice guy
al2: yeah... if you met me you'd be surprised, too
jdejan: mimi - ;)
Mimi_: Come to
SweetHP: Congrats mimi!
Mimi_: thanks SweetHP :o)
jdejan: I'm not leaving the country, but the next one (I hope) is from outside the USA
Mimi_: May I suggest Canada to anyone?
al2: I'm stayin' right here
* HelloKit had to go to the other end of the country to
mon_ange: i got a good ol' american guy :D
Mimi_: OK, may I suggest Keith to anyone? *g*
al2: I lived in Montreal for a while
DopeHat: i can't find any women around my age
jdejan: Actually, to meet people you have to get out and do things...... you won't meet them sitting at home
AmyWonder: i had to go outta state
HelloKit: How old are you, Keith?
* Mooooooo had to crawl under a rock to find his last
HelloKit: Hey! I met mine sitting at home!
HelloKit: In front of the computer, to be exact...
Mimi_: dont be bitter, Danile
jdejan: how? what is your secret?
mon_ange: same here kit :D
jdejan: DH, you're still young.... you have plenty of time to meet that special someone
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DopeHat: how carly
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Fuzzie1: Hi all
Mimi_: hey Fuzzie, Hombre :o)
jdejan: I've made a couple of very good friends through the computer, but no love
SweetHP: Hi fuzzie1!
AmyWonder: over the net jody
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Hombre: hello everyone?
Mooooooo: heya fuzzy
Fuzzie1: So how's the meeting going?
Mimi_: Hey Han!!
Mooooooo: Hombre and Han
al2: well... this woman that runs #erotica lives 9 miles from me
al2: but she scares me
Mimi_: I've been attracted to people I've met through the internet
Hombre: same here
jdejan: same here.....
mon_ange: yeah same here but nothing more
Mimi_: nope, nothing more
* Lao-tzu greets everybody. My wife, Rosie, is back home
Mooooooo: I met 'it* on IRC
Mimi_: You wonder how you can be attracted to someone you're never met
Hombre: no limits
* HelloKit pats Mooooooo on the melon.
SweetHP: Hi Lao-tzu!
jdejan: Moooo, is 'it' your last girlfriend?
Hombre: your sences
HelloKit: I should ship you my sister, Mooooooo...
jdejan: guess it didn't turn out well
AmyWonder: it is kinnda eaasier
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DopeHat: you never know whats on the other end
Gilbert: I found you!
Mooooooo: Hey Gil!
Gilbert: Oh, relief!
Lao-tzu: hi Gil
jdejan: that's true DH....
AmyWonder: to email date
SweetHP: Well, Mimi, you get to know the person and you're not judging by their looks alone.
Mimi_: Hey Gilbert :o_
mon_ange: well all i must go, i'll see ya'll tomorrow or next week =oD
Mimi_: oops, :o)
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Hombre: bye every one
jdejan: I did get together with one of my friends from the net
Mooooooo: see ya himbre
AmyWonder: att fiirst
Mimi_: that's what makes it so compelling, SweetHP
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* HelloKit will be right back, gotta find the sand...
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Mimi_: bye angel!
mon_ange: b'bye all
richardh: what time is it EST when it it's 6 pacific
Mooooooo: bye Angel!
DopeHat: bye angel
Mimi_: *hugs* angel
mon_ange: c yas tomorrow
SweetHP: Yes Mimi...I agree!
richardh: any girls here 18-25
al2: rich.... 9
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Mimi_: missed me by two years, richard
richardh: how old mimi
Lao-tzu: hey I know I'm late, but please reassure me
SweetHP: I've found that people in other countries are less 'hung-up' about my disablity.
Gilbert: Hi, meemer I'm 30
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jdejan: I'm 29 + 2 years experience.... sorry
Gilbert: Sweet, I've found the same thing
Mooooooo: howdy gimp!
richardh: it's hard to find love when youre autistic
Mimi_: hey gimp1 :o)
al2: yes, other countrypeople don't seem to be quite as vain
gimp1: hi..im new here
richardh: hi gimp
Mimi_: you are welcome, gimp
DopeHat: if there any women in here 18-25 they are mine
al2: ahoy gimp
jdejan: hi gimp.... just jump in. there is always a great crowd here
Lao-tzu: hullo gimp_one
DopeHat: hi gimp
CincyKid: I think you have a disabled and dateless night on here. what do you think?
gimp1: i have Cerebral Palsy
jdejan: DH lays claim to all the young women......
jlubin: I don't get out much to meet people
SweetHP: I've made some great friends in other countries and we've even traded pictures through email & irc.
CincyKid: should have
richardh: Dpe you take the west I take the east coast
al2: cincy.... you hit the nail on the head
richardh: I have autism
jdejan: Cincy - definitely!
Mimi_: how about married and dateless anyway? *g*
DopeHat: thats no good i'm in the middle
jlubin: last time I went outside was to see comet Hale-Bopp
* Mimi_ votes for Keith :o)
jdejan: where are you DH?
Gilbert: Doh! Mim
richardh: I dont get out much either
Mimi_: as a disinterested party, I say DopeHat gets the girls :o)
Lao-tzu: Mimi watch your mouth....<g>
jdejan: near OSU?
al2: last time i went outside was to see if the peaches are ripe
gimp1: what is everyone's disability?
Mimi_: gimp, I have epilepsy
* Mooooooo has Arthrogryposis
DopeHat: no Tulsa
SweetHP: Well, gotta go, work awaits! Great chatting with you all again, catch you next week.
jdejan: gimp - rheumatoid arthritis and five knee surgeries
jdejan: Moooo..... what is that?
al2: gimp... quadriplegic from spinal cord injury
* Lao-tzu is a paraplegic
Mimi_: bye SweetHP! :o)
Mooooooo: see ya Sweet
Mimi_: take care
Fuzzie1: I have arthritis
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Mooooooo: It's a muscle/tendon defent
Lao-tzu: bye sweet
AmyWonder: gimp; c.p.
CincyKid: Daughter has AMC
DopeHat: damn spam /msg
* jlubin is c2 vent dependent quadriplegic due to acute
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* HelloKit paws at the sand to cover up her business...
jdejan: I got that too, DH
Mimi_: I hate that, Keith :oPPPPPP
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HelloKit: Me too...
richardh: what's that Klubin
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jlubin: a swelling of the spinal cord
Fuzzie1: But it's only 9.9 cents per minute :)
Lao-tzu: I guess all you west coast guys want to go see the sunset?
al2: jlubin.... complete paralysis below c2?
jdejan: the sun was out today?
jlubin: yes, from the neck down
Lao-tzu: I can't see from here
Mimi_: I'm really far north, Han, so I'm still seeing the sunset
jdejan: can't see it in the east. nothing but rain..
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Fuzzie1: Sun is setting here
Mooooooo: howdy sinful
Mimi_: hey sinful
al2: jlubin... i can relate... i'm complete below c5
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DopeHat: i can't see
Mimi_: guess we're too clean a crowd
jdejan: guess we weren't what sinful was looking for ;)
jlubin: complete paralysis but I have feeling
Lao-tzu: so Mimi are you in Victoria?
al2: i do have some sensation below c5
gimp1: amy don't you wish to chat? I sent you a private message
jlubin: I just can't feel my right arm
Mimi_: nope, Han, I'm in the far north of Quebec
jdejan: Query: If the disability isn't obvious.... how do you bring it up to a romantic prospect?
Gilbert: That's a good one, JDE
Mooooooo: like what, Jody?
jdejan: please.... call me Jody
Mimi_: like epilepsy, perhaps?
AmyWonder: i sent a pavirate mess
Mimi_: when they ask you what your medication is for, then you tell them
jdejan: well, Dan, like me.... I don't limp but am in a lot of pain and require mucho surgery
al2: that's one thing about me... my disability is quite obvious upon sight
Mooooooo: I dont know Jody
jdejan: I know what you mean, mimi. I have an arsenal of drugs
richardh: mine aint visible but people know im 'speical' ick from the first moment they see me
jdejan: thanks for dinner, may I kiss you and by the way..... I'm a gimp.
al2: rich... why is that?
Mimi_: that's the rule I always went by, Jody
Gilbert: hee hee, Jode
jdejan: I'll have to try it...
Mooooooo: Jody, I think i'll print up some business cards for us all
Mooooooo: we can be card carrying gimps
jdejan: and what would you say?
Mimi_: Daniel made me 'Honorary Gimp' *g*
Fuzzie1: Great, can we have secret handshakes and passswords too?