Disabilities-R-Us

Created by and for people with physical disabilities.

Disabilities & Romance #4

Aug 14, 1997

This is an archival transcript of one of our past meetings. We don't have scheduled topical meetings anymore, but we're not opposed to the idea of bringing them back if someone is willing to commit to hosting them on a "long term" basis.

Participants already present:
  Disabled ([email protected])
  ChanServ ([email protected])
  DopeHat ([email protected])
  Mimi_ ([email protected])
  Mooooooo ([email protected])
  IgnoreMe ([email protected])
  HelloKit ([email protected])
  belle``
  DNISnv
  CincyKid ([email protected])
  Amazin1
  Fenicia
  haa
  Misty
  T_J
  capwriter
  Countrybo
  Mooooooo via Telnet ([email protected])
haa: IT LOOKS LIKE SOME NEW FOLKS
Mooooooo: The Log is on
belle``: lots of new folks!!
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Mimi_: welcome Dan :o)
* belle`` Welcomes $$1 to the channel!!
haa: COUNTRYBO I LIKE YOUR COLORS
* Countrybo is so far removed from romance he doesnt
Mooooooo: Ok Carly :o)
Mimi_: *LOL*
Mimi_: I hear ya CB ;o)
Countrybo: worse 5thing you can hear at night? dad mom what are you two doin? lol
DAN: THANK YOU MIMI, HOW ARE YOU?
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Mooooooo: Carly just pinged out
Mooooooo: eek
Mooooooo: yep
Mimi_: *ROFL* CB
haa: i HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM COUNTRYBO
Mimi_: I'm great Dan and you?
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HelloKit: Whoa... what was that all about???
DAN: GREAT!
* belle`` Welcomes HelloKit to the channel!!
Mimi_: wb Carly ;o)
HelloKit: I just got like 3 fatal exception errors in a row...
Mooooooo: you were naughty
* belle`` is having trouble with the popups
HelloKit: Heh... I guess. I didn't do anything except start telnet...
CincyKid: That motherboard must not like ya Kit!
DAN: HEY DOPEHAT, HOW ARE THINGS IN OKLAHOMA?
HelloKit: Heh... I guess not! LOL
Mimi_: thanks Keith :o)
DopeHat: Ok
* Mooooooo is ready :o)
HelloKit: ARE WE READY TO START?
* DopeHat is ready
Mimi_: yes :o)
Countrybo: i thought we did?
Mooooooo: yep :o)
belle``: start?
capwriter: go
* Mooooooo is ready to rumble
DAN: SURE
* belle`` missed something!!
DopeHat: shoot
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haa: OK AS LONG AS WE SKIP ROMANCE
HelloKit: OKAY... EVERYONE KNOWS I'VE HAD A HECK OF A TIME COMING UP WITH ROMANCE TOPICS, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I BORE YOU TO DEATH TONIGHT.
Mooooooo: hi myrna
Mooooooo: okie
HelloKit: FIRST, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXCITING ROMANCE STORIES OR NEWS TO SHARE?
myrna: hello everybody
DopeHat: no apologies :o)
DAN: WHAT IS ROMANCE?
Mimi_: YES...give the kid to the parents for a weekend and go off my yourselves, it works wonders :o)
Mooooooo: Not yet, but I plan to when I get to Dallas :o)
myrna: I sort of remember that word...from long ago
* HelloKit smiles at Mooooooo.
Mooooooo: Guess that was it :o)
capwriter: much sympathy, myrna.
myrna: thanks cap
haa: MY HUSB ASKED ME NEVER TO MARRY ANYONE IF HE DIED AND THAT WAS ROMANTIC FOR HIM
DAN: Why is it so quiet all of a sudden?
HelloKit: WELL, I DO HAVE SOME NEWS...
myrna: hope it isn't my breath
Mooooooo: lol
Mimi_: awwww...that's sweet haa :o)
Countrybo: lets se softball baseball swimming lessons summer classes work home life now soccer 2 kids two sep teams two schedules everynight of week who has energy for romance?
Mimi_: lets have it carly
Mooooooo: I have lots of energy :o)
Mimi_: wow CB :o)
CincyKid: Ok i have a short story for ya, when your done carly.
Mimi_: I guess that's where I'm headed
HelloKit: AS A FEW OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, MY 'UNOFFICIAL FIANCE' CHRIS AND I ARE GOING ON VACATION AGAIN...
Countrybo: wow cool hk
Mooooooo: Yep :o)
HelloKit: THIS IS OUR SECOND BIG TRIP TOGETHER - WE'LL BE TAKING THE BUS FROM OREGON TO RHODE ISLAND TO VISIT HIS FAMILY.
haa: WHERE CARLY
Countrybo: wow!!!!!!!!
Mimi_: sounds official ;o)
Countrybo: x country even
myrna: Greyhound bus?
* Countrybo is jealouse
Mooooooo: You're gonna have buns of steel after 12 days on a bus
HelloKit: YES, MYRNA.
Countrybo: lol
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myrna: oh boy
CincyKid: Take amtrak
HelloKit: IT'S NOT 12 DAYS, ONLY 3 DAYS EACH WAY.
myrna: I'd rather take the bus I think
Mooooooo: oh, ok
myrna: My last exe
CincyKid: it will seem like 12
Mimi_: It would be enough to kill me I think Carly :o)
capwriter: Don't forget the blanket.
HelloKit: AMTRAK IS $800 JOHN, GREYHOUND IS $158
myrna: experience on Amtrak was bad
Mimi_: brb gotta kiss Felix goodnight :o)
Countrybo: Hurry back, Mimi_ We'll miss you
Countrybo: how well does bus travel work with wheel chairs?
CincyKid: whoa
DAN: doesn't anybody hitchhike anymore?
haa: BYE MIMI
belle``: not well with wheels .. bad experiences!!!
Mooooooo: I think they tie the chair to the back of the bus and roll ya there
Countrybo: klol
HelloKit: I'M NOT TAKING MY WHEELCHAIR THIS TIME - BUT I HEARD AT LEAST GREYHOUND ISN'T GOOD FOR WHEELCHAIR TRAVEL.
Countrybo: tow bar
belle``: close there
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belle``: hook under lip
Mooooooo: Amy!!! :oD
Amazin1: greyhound is not wheelchair accessible
myrna: hello amy
* belle`` Welcomes AmyWonder to the channel!!
AmyWonder: hey all
haa: KI AMY
CincyKid: How many times do you have to change buses Kit?
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haa: HI AMYWONDER
* Mooooooo not only welcomes AmyWonder to the channel, he
* Countrybo checks his scooter batteries lets see 5 miles
HelloKit: 3 BUS CHANGES - IN SALT LAKE CITY, CHICAGO AND NEW YORK.
Mooooooo: wow, thats pretty good
AmyWonder: hi haa
CincyKid: why does it take 3 days?
* Countrybo takes it hk can walk
HelloKit: YES, I CAN.
HelloKit: BRB
Countrybo: Hurry back, HelloKit We'll miss you
Countrybo: great!
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* Mimi_ is back
Mooooooo: wb
haa: HI AMY
AmyWonder: things any better witth your kids?
Mooooooo: I took the bus to San Francisco once and that was too much
Mimi_: Hi Amy! :o)
DopeHat: i have a romance story
Mooooooo: Ok Keith :o)
Mimi_: let's hear it Keith :o)
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myrna: tell it!
AmyWonder: hi mimi
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DopeHat: but it hasn't happened yet
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Mimi_: you still working on it Keith?
DopeHat: :o)
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Mooooooo: Cool :o)
Mimi_: welcome perrito, Shashone, and jeepors...and lorijane! :o)
DopeHat: :o(
Lorijane: Hi:0)
jeepors: Hello
haa: AMY I AM CONVINCE I HAVE NORMAL HAPPY KIDS DETICATED TO DRIVING ME NUTS!
DopeHat: howdy
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Countrybo: its part of the contract isnt it?
AmyWonder: haa, :)
Mooooooo: eeek!
Shashone: Hello and thanks Mimi
myrna: how long has this channel been here?
Mooooooo: Hiya Shashone!
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Mimi_: my pleasure :o)
Mooooooo: Since Feb 18
HelloKit: WHAT WAS YOUR STORY, CINCYKID?
Mooooooo: It was on AnotherNet before that
Countrybo: they are just paying us back for what we did to our parents lol
Shashone: hello Mooooooo, long time no see
Mooooooo: /:o)
CincyKid: I thought it was romantic anyway- love over adversity
* Lorijane slaps Lorijane around a bit with a large trout
Mooooooo: Tell us :o)
Lorijane: opps I'm training myself with this irc stuff
CincyKid: During our recent visit to the hospital-- I saw an unusual happening
CincyKid: A wedding in the intensive care
myrna: wow
Countrybo: wow
HelloKit: COOL!
Mimi_: awww :o)
Mooooooo: cool!
CincyKid: bride and groom were not the patients by the way...
DopeHat: cool
Lorijane: were the patients getting married?
Lorijane: oh
AmyWonder: oh my God
Mimi_: really? wow...
Lorijane: doctors?
CincyKid: Their child was in ICU...
HelloKit: YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CRY...
CincyKid: wedding - a BIG one had been already planned...
myrna: me too
CincyKid: But life threw a curve as it always does...
haa: ROMANCE - IJUST WORRY MY 15 YEAR OLD WILL FORGET TO WEAR A RAINCOAT
* Mimi_ tears up
CincyKid: but the couple decided to have it there in the hospital..
HelloKit: THAT'S NEAT...
CincyKid: with all the nurses and doctors and everyone else as guests..
Mooooooo: thats sweet :o)
CincyKid: In all it was a happy ending-- but i wonder where did they honeymoon!
HelloKit: LOL
Mimi_: :o)
Mimi_: that's love :o)
CincyKid: True story
Mimi_: I have a question to ask...
Countrybo: in ob ward lol
Mooooooo: Ok!
Mooooooo: lol
HelloKit: GO AHEAD, MIMI.
HelloKit: LOL COUNTRYBO
Countrybo: scarey place that ob ward
Mimi_: FOR ALL YOU MARRIED PEOPLE...WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, TO PUT THE ROMANCE BACK IN YOUR MARRIAGE?
Mimi_: AND HOW DID IT TURN OUT?
Countrybo: stayed married
Amazin1: g'nite all..... :)
Mimi_: night Denise :o)
Mooooooo: nite Denise :o)
Lorijane: today is NOT the day to ask me about my marriage
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CincyKid: Kicked the kids out, that helps a lot Mimi
myrna: got a divorce
Mimi_: I have to wait 18 years for that!
Lorijane: hehehe myrna
Mimi_: what did you try that didn't work, myrna?
Lorijane: brb
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Countrybo: Hurry back, Lorijane We'll miss you
CincyKid: we've got about 7 more years to go
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Mimi_: CB, how, exactly, did you stay married then?
myrna: he wanted somebody able to keep up with him
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* Countrybo thinks we get so wraped up in the kids
haa: PHOTOS AND QUOTATIONS ATTACHED TO MY EMAIL ARE TURNING SOME FOLKS ON
myrna: say what?
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IgnoreMe: bee-jaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bee-jaah: Hi all
IgnoreMe: Hiya Thorn!
DAN: speaking of photo's.......
Countrybo: we had the kids togetther ..we raise the kids together...we stay together
Mimi_: hello bee-jaah, Thorn
bee-jaah: kit hello
Thorn: hello
Mimi_: and when the kids are gone CB? what will happen then?
HelloKit: HI BEE-JAAH AND THORN...
Thorn: hello
Countrybo: the romance will return
Mimi_: I think that the couple is first and last, and shouldn't be forgotten in the middle
bee-jaah: Whats up and what is the topic for today
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IgnoreMe: Romance and Disabilities
Mimi_: how can it return if it died long ago?
myrna: the couple should be first...after all, the kids grow up and leave
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CincyKid: i heard a rumor the kids never leave for good, they keep coming back...
CincyKid: is it true?
Mooooooo: Hi Simon!
Mimi_: exactly myrna...plus the kids will sense a lack of passion between their parents and that's not good
HelloKit: IT'S TRUE, CINCY... MY SISTER IS LIVING PROOF...
phoenyxx: oh no what have I gotten into here.....
Mimi_: SIMON!! :O)
phoenyxx: :-)
myrna: that is true....I am back at mama's house
phoenyxx: hey Mimi, Moooo, everyone :-)
haa: IF YOU ARE LUCKY THE KIDS LEAVE
myrna: yes
* Mimi_ gives phoenyxx an eye-popping hug
phoenyxx: :-)
bee-jaah: im lucky no kids
phoenyxx: ok everyone...this chat topic is an oxymoron... :-)
DopeHat: hi simon
phoenyxx: sort of like matter and antimatter :-)
Mimi_: Has anyone tried anything like counselling, Marriage Encounter, good books, other concrete solutions??
phoenyxx: hey DopeHat
Mimi_: *LOL* simon
phoenyxx: Mimi: but it's true....
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Mooooooo: wb reese
HelloKit: A LITTLE SECRET, MIMI... CHRIS AND I BOUGHT A MASSAGE BOOK... HEHE
Countrybo: the couple has to take or make small times for themselves like when kids are in bed or small overnight interludes....but to muck babysittes and guess who raises your kids? mthe darn babysiter...Kids are a part of yourmlife...you must enjoy them they must enjoy you and you raise and nurture each other..romantic interludes are great but the true romance is in working together as a family
HelloKit: BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE...
Mimi_: hey! not bad :o)
DopeHat: it very simple if you are not happy get out
Mooooooo: ooooooooooh lala carly :o)
HelloKit: MY MOTHER DOESN'T EVEN KNOW...
* HelloKit giggles.
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myrna: my ex didn't believe in counseling
Lorijane: hello
Mooooooo: wb :o)
reese_1: Hi all.
Lorijane: how do you encourage counseling?
DAN: my ex didn't believe in anything
myrna: mine neither
haa: BEE-JAAH I DO CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY BUT DO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY WILL LEAVE
reese_1: Same here.
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HelloKit: HEY SHEREE...
sheree: hey:o)
capwriter: Sounds like it's his BIG loss, myrna.
Mooooooo: Hi Sheree :o)
myrna: and truthfully, I was glad to get out...there was absolutely no romance there
bee-jaah: its hard enough in tne hetro world but to be gay and disabled and looking for romace as well god that makes for nearly impossabble odds any thoughts people
Mimi_: that's definitly something to think about CB...but it seems like somethings missing then
phoenyxx: I could make a snide comment about that being pornography but I won't :-)
sheree: hey moooo how are you?:o)
DopeHat: brb
Countrybo: Hurry back, DopeHat We'll miss you
Mooooooo: Im geeat!!!
sheree: gee its busy in here
sheree: :o)
sheree: how are you helleokit
Mimi_: HAS ANYONE TRIED COUNSELLING ALONE, EVEN IF THE SPOUSE WON'T GO?
Lorijane: yes
Mimi_: how did it work out?
HelloKit: Good, sheree.
Lorijane: worked great for me..but it takes two
sheree: good:o)
DAN: ya, my ex did, it didn't work.
Mooooooo: I think you have to go tohether
Countrybo: if couples would communicate with each other they wouldnt need the mediation of a counselor lol
reese_1: It does take two.
haa: GOOD LUCK - MARRIAGE IS OK BUT DIVORCE IS HELL
Lorijane: he said I was over eacting to stuff
Lorijane: and when I went to learn about me emotions
Lorijane: the doc said I acted normal
reese_1: Easy to get it and hard to get out.
HelloKit: If there's one thing I wish for myself and my relationship, it's that I will never treat Chris like my mother treats my father...
DAN: Ya, divorce is hell. I did it twice. I'm livin with a great lady now though. I call her THE WAR DEPARTMENT.
phoenyxx: I think I'll find a girlfriend when Charon the ferryman is out of business because the River Styx has ice floes on it and people skating on it.
phoenyxx: :-)
Mimi_: now, now, Simon, give yourself some credit :o)
myrna: I think counseling isn't necessary if the couple both want to make it work....why not just talk to each other? why involve a third party?
Countrybo: absolutely
phoenyxx: Mimi: you got that? I thought you said my jokes never made sense? :-)
* Mooooooo gets out his special decoder ring
Mimi_: myrna, sometimes, I think the couple needs help getting the communication going
haa: DAN, DO YOU GET BETTER WITH EXPERIENCE?
Countrybo: funny thing did the couple communicate befor the marriagre?
Mimi_: I got it Simon, which in itself is proof that you'll be finding a girlfriend soon ;o)
Mooooooo: Yeah, they call Dr. Laura :o)
reese_1: Sometimes you need an objective party.
DAN: By the way, she just walked out of here saying she's now going to the command center to figure out another attach.
Lorijane: hi
phoenyxx: Mimi: :-)
HelloKit: Do you guys think communicating in a relationship is made harder when there is a disability involved?
Shashone: sometimes 'NOT' tslking to each other BUT simply listening to each other is even more helpful
Lorijane: just testing again sorry
Mimi_: Good point Shashone!!
Countrybo: actually hk it has brought me closer to my family
DAN: haa, they say 3 times is a charm.......I don't wanna find out!
reese_1: I think so.
phoenyxx: brb
Mooooooo: Depends on the limitations carly
Countrybo: Hurry back, phoenyxx We'll miss you
myrna: I agree Shashone
AmyWonder: let me guess, mimi. he won't talk
AmyWonder: ?
myrna: my husband and I didn't even speak the same language...it was a mistake from the word go
Mimi_: We'll only talk when things get really bad
haa: I THINK IT BECOMES EASY TO BLAME IT ON THE DISABILITY
Shashone: thanks myrna
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Mimi_: er, HE'LL only talk that is
Countrybo: thats a cop out
Lorijane: yes haaa
Mooooooo: hello Amy
amyhi: hi moooooooo et al
Mimi_: Well, my epilepsy has nothing to do whatever with anything
Mimi_: what's a cop out CB?
Countrybo: the line goes for better or worse sickness and in health doesnt a person's promise mean anything anymore?
haa: IT SEEMS LIKE DIVORCE IS A COP OUT
AmyWonder: YES
reese_1: Some people are looking for an easy way out.
HelloKit: For example, one thing that causes a lot of arguments with me and Chris, is that I tend to just expect him to know what I need, what I need help with... and I just expect him to keep things in my reach and accessible to me.
DAN: Myrna, I am a male. What was that you said?
Mimi_: I agree, divorce sucks, I'm just looking for a way to avoid life-long apathy
Countrybo: blaming the disability on anything is a cop out
IgnoreMe: I agree CB, I plan to get married only once
HelloKit: And when he forgets and leaves something where I can't get to it, I flip out...
Lorijane: nice plan ignoreMe..but sometimes it does not work out
reese_1: Can you find love a second time?
Countrybo: hk nobody said life was easy
CincyKid: Let fill you in on a little secret Kit, us men never know what women need!
IgnoreMe: Carly, then you need to change
DAN: ignore me, we all plan on it being only once!
Mimi_: *LOL* true Cincy ;o)
myrna: Dan, I don't remember what I said....
Mimi_: THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DIVORCED...WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY IF YOU COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN?
Lorijane: i would think not get married
myrna: I would stay single
HelloKit: I know I do, and believe me I try... I've been spoiled though. And it's hard for me to remember that Chris hasn't been around people with disabilities all his life, like my family has.
Lorijane: but i am not divorced
Mimi_: wow...
DAN: Mryna.....I'm just being typical male.....I didn't hear it the first time.
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myrna: lol
TranSurf: lol.
TranSurf: what kind of chan is this?
Countrybo: you know the most important thing is listenindg and talking to each other ..if you rally love each other YOU WILL work it out...if you cant overcome the obstacles and end up hating each other then bail out its over dont be miserable...but if the love is for real you'll overcome those problems TOGETHER
reese_1: Marry someone else.
haa: I THINK DISABILITIES MAKE ALMOST EVERY THING HARDER
AmyWonder: has any one read Men are from Mars Women are from Venus?
TranSurf: What kind of chan is this?
HelloKit: Not everything...
TranSurf: oh.
TranSurf: wow.
TranSurf: sorry.
TranSurf: bye.
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amyhi: i agree with haa
Lorijane: yes amy..it is really the same old story
Mooooooo: Men are from mars, women are just plain nuts. :o)
Countrybo: sure they do of course they do EVERYTHING gets harder ....tougher ..... rougher...but not impossible
phoenyxx: back
Mimi_: no Amy but my therapist recommended it
Countrybo: Welcome Back phoenyxx We missed you
amyhi: get outa town moooooooo
* Mimi_ slaps Mooooooo around a bit with a large trout.
* HelloKit slaps Mooooooo around a bit with a bag of
AmyWonder: I found it helpful
Mimi_: did you read it amy?
haa: I SAW A COUPLDE OF ADS ON TV AMY AND IT SOUNHS GOOD
HelloKit: I have the book, but have only read bits and pieces.
amyhi: i read some in the airport
DNISnv: I think the important thing is to find someone who loves you BECAUSE of who you are, not IN SPITE of what you are.
Mimi_: I heard that it's no good because it only inhibits communication by saying that it's impossible for men and woment to communicate
DAN: i read a bok once, too!
reese_1: I like that saying!
Shashone: brb
Countrybo: Hurry back, Shashone We'll miss you
myrna: easier said than done
myrna: can somebody send me that beback wave?
Countrybo: hey i wasnt disabled when we got married
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Mimi_: heya gordon :o)
Lorijane: has your relationship changed countrybo
HelloKit: I don't think that's true, Mimi. I think it's just pointing out that there are some big differences between men and women, and we have to work around them.
Countrybo: yes
Mimi_: So you think I should get it Carly?
AmyWonder: but you have to read in between the bull
amyhi: how so, countrybo
Mimi_: what part is bull?
AmyWonder: the book is sexist
IgnoreMe: i havent read it
haa: http://www.match.com/link.cgi/486296566215/welcome.tpl
Lorijane: my hubby has only known me disabled
Countrybo: it has grown more intense as far as outwardness doin things for each other helping one another the family unit has been case hardened and tempered thru all the times of trouble we really have gone thru like 6 mothn withoput a paycheck while going to drs to find out what was wrong? and the constant new things we have to work our wayy around as i get worse
myrna: it kinda sounds sexist to me, but I haven't read it
Lorijane: kinda scary countrybo..??
HelloKit: I haven't really read enough of it to know.
Countrybo: its not romantic its pure love that binds us together
Mimi_: cool haa, too late for me ;o)
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Lorijane: I think that is the hardest part of the disability...scared
Mimi_: but how can you feel loved if you feel neglected CB?
haa: MY HUB MARRIED ME AFTER DISABILITY STARTED LORI
Countrybo: i'd rather not thionk of the future lol sometrimes it really does scare me
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Countrybo: neglect is lack of attention ....could be a lack of communication wich is the heart of attention?
Lorijane: sometimes we have to think about future
DopeHat: i'm back
HelloKit: In a way I feel lucky that I was born with my disability... I've never been through not knowing what's wrong, or fear...
Lorijane: plan for things..like when we built our house
Mimi_: wb Keith
Countrybo: well i do think of the future selfishly sometimes when i answer the what ifs or what whens? lol;
reese_1: brb
Countrybo: Hurry back, reese_1 We'll miss you
DopeHat: thanx mooo
Lorijane: at that time I could walk and climb stairs..but we did not put stairs in and now I am pretty glad we did not because of surgeries and my lack of range of motion
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Lorijane: boy my msg did not make sense
Lorijane: I was talking about when we built our house
Lorijane: we purposely planned on no stairs
Lorijane: wide hallways etc
Countrybo: stars are a pain for sure lori but there are ways around them ...you were fortunate indeed
haa: CB I AM TO BUSY TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE - IF I THOUGHT ABOUT IT I MIGHT GET SCARED TOO
DAN: O.K., you want serious! I enjoy making love to my woman. However, I worry about tomorrow. Can I continue making love?
Lorijane: there is always a way dan
Countrybo: tell ya what haaa, when i feel sorry for my self the Lord lets me see someone far worse off than me and i realize how lucky i am ....
Lorijane: yah countrybo..but I always feel bad for that feeling
Countrybo: it is sad inded
HelloKit: My sweetie is cooking me dinner... :o)
Shashone: back
Mimi_: so true, CB, but that can't stop me from trying to fix my own problems
AmyWonder: Mimi. it's probably a comminucaation problem
Countrybo: Welcome Back Shashone We missed you
Countrybo: hey i couldnt survive without my family lol seriously wifey has saved my life many times!!!!
myrna: Dan, there are lots of ways of making love.....
DAN: Not like I do it today!
HelloKit: lol
HelloKit: Can I ask what your disability is, DAN?
HelloKit: Mooooooo, ping me
HelloKit: thanx
Mimi_: true, Amy, but I think there's more than that
DAN: Polio
Countrybo: MiMi you know (and i dont mean to preach so excuse me) only God can really help ya change your own problems and you are right you HAVE to keep trying and planing and just goin for it as it comes
sheree: will i got to go
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CincyKid: Does anyone think a disability can actually improve a relationship, by drawing you closer together?
Mimi_: bye Sheree :o)
sheree: bye mimi:o) talk to yall later
sheree: bye mooooooo:o)
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Countrybo: like for example...we needed a ramp , we had no money... no way to do this... word got out and a church stepped forward and built it!
Countrybo: in JANUARY!!!!
Countrybo: took 2 days to chip ice to clear a spot!
DAN: When I was young and in my prime, I used to do it all the time. But now, as I am odl and grey, I only do once a day.
Countrybo: YES cincyKid it has to me
AmyWonder: men often doon't realize their igroning you
HelloKit: Whoa... I think I was in a lag bubble or somethin'...
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myrna: sure got quiet....
myrna: is anybody here?
Shashone: lots of ways of having sex, only one way of making love , commitment... imho
DopeHat: yes
DAN: mentally or physically?
HelloKit: Cincy, I think my disability has brought Chris and me closer.
Mimi_: CB. I couldnt' agree more...the Serenity Prayer has become a litany :o)
Mimi_: GRAIN OF TRUTH : <AmyWonder> men often doon't realize their igroning you
HelloKit: I think if I didn't depend on him so much, I might neglect him.
Mimi_: cool Amy thanks for that one ;o)
Countrybo: romance goes so far beyond the realm of simply havin a roll in the hay
HelloKit: And I know that sounds rotten...
AmyWonder: you're welcome mimi!
DAN: cb, your abso. correct. For me it's friendship first, respect next.,
Mimi_: Amy, tell it to [email protected] please :o)
Mimi_: maybe he'll listen to you *g*
myrna: goodnight everybody. Nice talking to you. What is the subject for next week?
Countrybo: well sex is an important part of a successful marriage for sure but a marriage based on sex will surely fail lol
DNISnv: Well, gotta go put the kiddo to bed. Thanks for an interesting evening everyone. Maybe I won't be so shy next time ;)
Mimi_: 'Accepting your disability' myrna
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Mimi_: good night :o)
Mooooooo: myrna, we are here every day :o)
HelloKit: Next week: Accepting Your Disability
AmyWonder: ignoring
myrna: evert day?? really?
Countrybo: thats a tough one
Mooooooo: see ya DNI!!
Countrybo: if you acceopt it do you stop fighting it?
Mimi_: all day every day, practically myrna!!
DopeHat: good one
HelloKit: Myrna: Meetings are once a week, but we're always here gabbing...
Lorijane: accept it and fight it
DAN: really
Mimi_: Bye Kelly!!
Mooooooo: For the benefit of those who may need to leave early, you can download the entire meeting from our web site at http://members.tripod.com/~disabled
Mimi_: hurry back :o)
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myrna: wow...then I'll be back tomorrow
Mimi_: Jeff! :o)
* Countrybo will never accept his disability it will always
Mimi_: we live here :o)
DopeHat: i don't accept
Lorijane: countybo that is the way I approach it
Mooooooo: hey jeff!
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Lorijane: as a war!!!
Pyro: hey
DNISnv: If you don't accept it, can you return it for a full refund? Couldn't resist, nite all.
Countrybo: well it'll be fun next wed lol
Lorijane: nite dni
Mooooooo: For the benefit of those who may need to leave early, you can download the entire meeting from our web site at http://members.tripod.com/~disabled
DopeHat: i wish i could
Countrybo: stop fiightin and ya stop period
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DAN: nite johnboy
HelloKit: Well all, I must get going as well. Dinner is almost ready.
Countrybo: nighters
Lorijane: bye kit
Mooooooo: bye Carly!!!
AmyWonder: I'm sorry, mimi
* HelloKit . o O ( Fettucine Alfredo... mmmmmm... )
Lorijane: yummm
myrna: good night again...take care, and thanks for making me feel welcome
CincyKid: Nighty night KIt!
HelloKit: See y'all later!
Mimi_: bye Carly!! :o)
DopeHat: see ya carly
Lorijane: well lets see romance = nice back rub
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AmyWonder: night Carly
Mimi_: hurry back myrna
DopeHat: ping me
Lorijane: did that work?
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Pyro: carly: when you gonna meail?
Pyro: email
Mimi_: what are you sorry about Amy?
Shashone: HelloKit/Mooooooo channel has really grown and is Super!
Pyro: email
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Mimi_: Chris was here earlier looking for you Jeff
Pyro: heh, well both times i poped in no one was here, so i'm gonna take a nap
Mimi_: nighty night :o)
Pyro: oops
Pyro: i mean went
CincyKid: Must be intermission time :-)
Lorijane: yah
Mooooooo: there are lag bubbles
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AmyWonder: bye mimi
CincyKid: a whole stream of em Dan
Mimi_: I'm not leaving :o)
Countrybo: so many people so few opinions?
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DopeHat: good
* Pyro thinks dan should move it to efnet when and IF i
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Romeo18J: hello room
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CincyKid: Well Countrybo I've been trying to avoid going into next weeks topic but....
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Lorijane: very quiet
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