Mimi: how are you tonight?
Amazin1: I'm back
Mooooooo: wb :o)
Mooooooo: 6:00pb :o)
Amazin1: :) thanks
Mooooooo: hey al2!!
Mimi: sorry Daniel I got confused :o)
Mooooooo: hehe
Mimi: hello everyone who just joined us! :O)
Mooooooo: wb Denise :o)
al2: ahoy mooooo
DopeHat: hi al2
al2: ahoy dopehat
Mimi: Tonight's meeting is about Disability Foul-ups, Bleeps, and Blunders
Catz: my dad says hello to hop-along
Mooooooo: cool topic :o0
Mimi: Has your disability ever gotten you into a funny or embarrassing situation?
Mooooooo: :o) too
Hop-along: hello
Mooooooo: Mine has!!!
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phoenyxx: just in time
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Mimi: let's hear it, Daniel :o)
Mooooooo: I fell down on the highway in my body cast
Mimi: hello, Simon, Judy
Mimi: eek!
al2: hey phoenyxx... finally we meet!
Hop-along: Catz, Who is your Dad.
phoenyxx: hello al2
Mooooooo: with a semi coming down the road
Mimi: for those who just came in, the question is: Has your disability ever gotten you into a funny or embarrassing situation?
Mimi: oh, my god, what did you do?
phoenyxx: I've flipped my chair a few times trying to hop on or off curbs.
Amazin1: moooo-ve it
Mooooooo: the truck stopped
Mimi: I guess so or you wouldn't be here!
Mooooooo: but i was able to get up
Mooooooo: it sure was a site to see though
Mooooooo: people were watching
Mooooooo: was pretty funny
Mimi: did anyone run to help?
al2: anybody offer to help ya?
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Mooooooo: nope, they just kina looked
Mimi: sheesh!
al2: afraid, no doubt
Mimi: guess they didn't want to tangle with that semi, either :O)
Mooooooo: i looked like a turtle on his back
DopeHat: some people
DopeHat: hehe
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Mimi: full body cast?
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Mooooooo: from my neck to my butt
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Mooooooo: i think i fell two more times after that
Mimi: lol
Mooooooo: the only 2 times Jenny didnt walk to school with me
Mimi: where was she when you needed her?! ;o)
Mooooooo: heh
Mooooooo: ok, who else has a story?
Amazin1: My crutchtips got suctioned to the wet pavement at SeaWorld last year....and slid down a walkway the very same day, doing the splits and not very gracefully, I might add
phoenyxx: yikes!
Mimi: *g*
Mooooooo: hehe, ive seen that happen :o)
Mimi: what were they doing in wet pavement? :o)
Mimi: oh, I was thinking like wet cement, I get it now :o)
Amazin1: about 5 Japanese ladies just stood in a circle around me...trying to figure out what to do
DopeHat: i had my sister turn my wheelchair at the airport
phoenyxx: One of the times my chair flipped my friends and I were videotaping and the first thing I yelled
Mimi: what did they finally do, Denise?
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phoenyxx: was 'Where's the camera' to make sure it was packed in the case!
phoenyxx: :-)
Amazin1: nothing
DopeHat: turn it over
Mooooooo: hi bee-jaah and gordon!
Mimi: hello beejaah, gordon
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bee-jaah: Hi all
Amazin1: my sister-in-law finally acknowledged that she knew me and let them know I could get up on my own
Mimi: the current question is:
Mimi: Has your disability ever gotten you into a funny or embarrassing situation?
Hop-along: Hello to you all. Nice to talk to you all.
gordon4: hello!hello
Mooooooo: It was VERY embarrassing when I got my cast on
al2: I think I've led a sheltered life
Mooooooo: was layed out naked in front of over a dozen men and women
Mimi: how come, al2?
Mooooooo: they were there to observe
bee-jaah: Oh yes my left side has a mind of its own and goes off on a tangent when it feels like it
al2: all my predicaments weren't funny
Mimi: eek! how old were you?
Mooooooo: 16
Mimi: yikes *wince*
Mooooooo: well all the women were nuns and the men were doctors
Mimi: you mean not all of them were, or none of them were, al2?
judi: Hi! All my predicaments haven't been funny either
al2: none were funny... either dangerous or painful
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Mimi: were the nuns nurses?
Mooooooo: al2, ya gotta admit the nurse thing was VERY funny :o)
bee-jaah: In the middle of a department store here with a huge display of cystal you can guess the rest
Mimi: LOL
al2: well... ok
Mooooooo: yep Mimi
Mimi: yeah, I agree ;o)
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al2: pleasurable, too
Mooooooo: hello cinnandy
Mimi: LOL
Mooooooo: lol
cinnandy: Hi judi!!!!
judi: Hi Cinnandy
cinnandy: Suprise
judi: Very
Mimi: the question was funny OR embarassing...so shoot, guys!
cinnandy: so hows the conversation going?
Mooooooo: going great :o)
cinnandy: Hi everyone by the way
phoenyxx: One time I got a voice mail about one of the TV shows my friends and I do and no joke, one caller seemed to think the chair was
Mimi: good cinnady, the current question is: Has your disability ever gotten you into a funny or embarrassing situation?
phoenyxx: a prop!
Mimi: a prop? for what?
Mooooooo: simon, you mean that chair is for real????????? :oP
phoenyxx: No, literally they thought the chair was part of the show and not for real.
Mimi: LOL
cinnandy: well MimiI don't have a physical disability, does a brain malfunction count for me?
phoenyxx: weird-
phoenyxx: !
Mooooooo: cinnandy, yep! You and the president are more than welcome :o)
al2: hehe
cinnandy: why thank you so much!
Mimi: well it does for me, cinnandy, so it should for you too! :o)
Mimi: ROFL!
cinnandy: thank mimi
phoenyxx: What made it funny was that it wasn't a gripe, just that someone really thought in skit after skit the chair was just for show.
Mimi: like they couldn't conceive of a disabled actor
Mooooooo: I used to have fun with my cast on
judi: what kind of show are you talking about
Mimi: what did you do?
phoenyxx: Mimi: yeah, but I wasn't offended, like I said, it was rather funny
Mooooooo: once I stuck an x-acto knife in my back, poured ketchup on it, and layed on the school room floor
Mimi: people are strange
Mimi: LOL
cinnandy: THeir ignorance, not yours! ha
Mimi: did anyone fall for it?
Mooooooo: the teacher almost had a stroke
phoenyxx: because nothing about my disability was ever discussed, I just started appearing on camera in my chair/
al2: brb... need H2O...
phoenyxx: and I think some people just didn't get it at first :-)
Mooooooo: it was the same teacher who caught me with a fake bandage on my hand...
Mimi: well Simon I don't get most of your jokes...I imagine I'm not alone in the world ;o)
judi: have any of you ever gotten your chair stuck trying to get in a 'handicapped accessible public restroom?
Mooooooo: I wanted out of a test so I bandaged up my hand....
phoenyxx: judi: yes!
Mooooooo: one of the other teachers was friends with my mom...
DopeHat: when i was in the 8th grade i was in the gym and i was kicking a basketball around kinda like soccer in my motor chair. i missed it and my chair went up on it and fell over sideways.
Mooooooo: she called the other teacher up in class...
judi: Why do they call them handicapped if you can't get in them?
cinnandy: thats a good question!
Mimi: eek!
Mooooooo: the teacher walked up to me, smiled, took my bandaged hand and slammed it into the desk a few times
phoenyxx: Mimi: yeah, but there wasn't a joke to get :-)
Mooooooo: the other kids thought she was nuts
Mooooooo: was pretty funny
Mimi: ROFL
cinnandy: No worse than the motel room that was suppose to be handicapp accessable you rented that one time judi!
judi: true
cinnandy: mooooo maybe she was nuts!
Mooooooo: that would make a cool ride Keith :o)
Mooooooo: nah, she was my fav teacher in school
Mimi: but I bet it improved his aim ;o)
cinnandy: LOL Mimi!!
DopeHat: i hit my head on the floor
cinnandy: ouch!
Mooooooo: ow!
Mimi: *wince*
phoenyxx: judi- ever had someone try to justify lack of accessability?
judi: yes
al2: I fell forward in the wchair once, couldn't get back up and spent the next 13 hours with my face in the silverware drawer (funny now, but not then)
cinnandy: ha ha ha ha ha you mean that actually happens?
Mooooooo: whoa!
Mimi: oh, no!
cinnandy: a12, bet it wasn't funny at all!
Mimi: sounds boring and uncomfortable
Mooooooo: and I can never find clean silverware when i need it most
cinnandy: lol
phoenyxx: judi: ok, but have you ever had a disabled person try to justify lack of accessability? now that's a bad (but true) joke.
* Mimi chuckles
al2: yeah... i still have silverwareaphobia
Mooooooo: lol
cinnandy: a12, I bet you do!
Mooooooo: do people call you forkophobic?
al2: and i use a chest belt now
judi: yes, They always think that 2' higher sink is ALL they need
Mimi: *g*
al2: gee... the psychologists could have fun with forkophobia
phoenyxx: I can laugh now at someone thinking the chair was a prop- but at the time, I thought I was getting ripped for having it.
cinnandy: what gripes me the most is when a person is in a wheel chair or mobilty cart, which is provided in most stores now, can't even fit the cart through the check out aisle!
Mimi: . Are you self-conscious about being unable to perform certain tasks?
cinnandy: Barely fit a shopping cart through most of them
Mimi: oops!
judi: And with a cart its easy to get wedged
Mimi: next question is:
Mimi: Are you self-conscious about being unable to perform certain tasks?
al2: some tasks... like needing help to drain a leg bag
Mooooooo: Sometimes I am, but most times not
Mimi: like what?
phoenyxx: I'm shy about it a little. I'm pretty independent but it's a little embarassing to be able to push
judi: I still try to avoid those things
Mooooooo: no particular thing, just change of mood
Amazin1: I'm not self-concious....EVERYONE needs help at one time or another
phoenyxx: myself all the way into a store right up to what I want only to need someone to get it from a high shelf.
Mooooooo: most times im fine though
judi: how do you get over being so self conscious
Char2: the item that i want in the store is always on the top shelfe
al2: phoenyxx... me too, but that's never been a problem... i know short tabs that need the same help
judi: me too
Mooooooo: I think it just comes with accepting that you need help sometimes
phoenyxx: judi- for me it's just been something I've gotten used to, and store clerks seem cool about it.
cinnandy: phoenyxx, thats very understandable, I am not even in a wheel chair, and most things are to high for me to reach, how does anyone expect any different from a person in a wheel chair or cart?
phoenyxx: cinnandy: I'm 5'4' standing, so that's about 4'5' sitting. I was taller when I was a kid! :-)
Mimi: How do you handle it when other people are embarassed for you or around you?
phoenyxx: when I was 11 I was 4'10'!
Mimi: I'm short too and I need help in the supermarket :o)
Amazin1: I'm 3'11' :)
phoenyxx: Mimi: for me it depends on the situation. I can usually do something to put everyone at ease about it.
Mooooooo: Mimi, I just look them in the eye and tell them to kiss my pearly white butt
judi: I find store personnel keep coming up to me asking if I'm ok
Mimi: what do you do, Simon?
Mimi: lol, ok, Daniel
al2: not to worry... i can't get stuff off of shelves that are right next to me
phoenyxx: Mimi: to put people at ease, I can usually just act natural about it.
cinnandy: whats the deal that a sales clerk looks at the person thats with the handicap person instead of directly speaking to the handicap person?
al2: yup
Mooooooo: ohhh!
Mooooooo: the car dealer did that with me
judi: I sometimes feel like people want me to leave so they can be more comfortable
Mooooooo: started talking to my friend
cinnandy: Dothe sales people think because someone is disabled, they can't hear either?
phoenyxx: If I can see that people are a little nervous about the chair I can ask them to sit down so we can talk, that works fine.
DopeHat: i hate that
Mimi: I bet he didn't do it twice *G*
Mooooooo: walked right past me
phoenyxx: plus I make myself look relaxed, like taking my gloves off for example since I gesture alot when I talk.
Mimi: what did you do?
Mooooooo: I went to the dealer next door and paid cash for my new car.
Mimi: LOL
Mimi: the best revenge
Amazin1: lol Moo
cinnandy: Moooooo, good for you!!!
phoenyxx: cool Mooooo
Mooooooo: just like the time the lady in the restraunt was rude to me
Amazin1: Moo...I'll keep that in mind...I'm car shopping in November :)
Mooooooo: the other waitress was very nice
Mooooooo: I had milk and fries... $#
judi: you're very brave I would have crawled home, so to speak
Mooooooo: $3
Mooooooo: I left her a $40 tip
cinnandy: Good night everyone, nice chatting with you all! And good night to my adorable mother-in-law 'JUDI'
bee-jaah: Mooo you in a chair
Mooooooo: just to make the mean one mad
Mooooooo: nope, but i walk kinda funny
phoenyxx: for some reason most of the dirty looks have been from other disabled persons. don't know why though :-)
Mimi: lol
Mimi: bye cinnandy!
Mooooooo: bye cinnandy :o)
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Mimi: next question:
Mimi: Are you self-conscious about aspects of your appearance which are affected by your disability?
Mooooooo: as we were pulling out of the restraunt parking lot, in the window we could see the wairess jumping up and down
Mooooooo: happy
phoenyxx: Mimi: I am a little.
Mimi: cool! :o)
Mooooooo: I am too
al2: yes, but only a little
Mooooooo: I dont wear shorts anymore
Mooooooo: except inside
Mooooooo: or when hiking
Mimi: Believe it or not, I am too
Mimi: why do you say 'anymore?' Daniel?
phoenyxx: I'm comfortable about people seeing the chair but I'm more nervous about people seeing my wrist braces for carpal tunnel.
judi: I have gained a lot of weight due to cortisone and I don't want anyone I know to see that or the changes in my hands etc
phoenyxx: sounds weird, right?
Mooooooo: i used to wear shorts in the summer
Mooooooo: i got tired of nasty comments
Mimi: who made nasty comments?
Mimi: doesn't sound weird, Simon
bee-jaah: Im never sure weather people are looking at me or my disability
Mooooooo: mostly dumb kids who didnt like their windows and headlights :o)
judi: I know what you mean beejah
Mimi: When I had my first seizure at 16, my doctor put me on Dilantin which can have a nasty side effect on young girls...
phoenyxx: what's interesting is that I'm ok in the chair in public but I've gotten into a bad habit of hiding it on camera nowadays.
Mooooooo: what kind of effect?
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judi: my son used to take Dilantin, its hard on teenage boys too
Mimi: so to this day my legs, if I don't shave them, are as hairy as my husbands (but I DO shave them!)
al2: i don't shave anything
Mooooooo: wow, i didnt know that
turbokev: so what is the topic
Mimi: not to mention a couple of whiskers on my chin *wince*
Mimi: I absolutely hate it
Mooooooo: look up, Kev
Mooooooo: /:o)
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Mimi: Are you self-conscious about aspects of your appearance which are affected by your disability?
turbokev: any words + users
Mooooooo: Disability Foul-Ups, Bleeps & Blunders
judi: I hate walking funny and moving arms strange etc
turbokev: well my respirator and trache
Mooooooo: I dont like the fact I have no muscle mass in my calves
judi: I'm sure that is hard
Mooooooo: thats all im really self-conscious about
Mooooooo: the walking funny part doesnt bother me
judi: I don't either mooo
Mooooooo: just being so skinny
bee-jaah: Its like having a split personaity wanting to go in 2 directions at once
turbokev: me too moooooooooooo
al2: try no muscle mass below the shoulders
Mooooooo: i think all my mass is in my tummy
DopeHat: i'm self-conscious about how i look
Mimi: so is mine! ;o)
DopeHat: lol
Amazin1: lol
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phoenyxx: good one Mimi!
Mimi: hello sis :o)
phoenyxx: :-)
al2: yeah... I call it th
al2: oops
judi: I think anyone who looks different is self conscious
SIS2U: hi
bee-jaah: I have all my muscle mass above my eye brows
Mimi: sis the question is Are you self-conscious about aspects of your appearance which are affected by your disability?
turbokev: mine is in the pants (mass)
bee-jaah: so i hear
al2: yeah, I call it the 'black widow syndrome'... skinny arms & legs, big belly
turbokev: that's a joke!
phoenyxx: Now, is it weird that I'm not that shy about the chair anymore- it's only been 4 years.
SIS2U: Mimi
Mimi: I have a friend who's drop dead gorgeous and she's afraid to go out of the house without makeup
SIS2U: is this yopur meeting
Mimi: well, yep, this one's 'mine'
turbokev: that is nuts
SIS2U: ok
Mimi: it drives me absolutely crazy
SIS2U: thanks
Mimi: np :o)
al2: i know a slightly bald guy that spray paints his head
Mimi: lol
Mimi: does that stuff work?
judi: pathetic
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al2: it looks like a spray painted head
Mimi: wb :o)
Mimi: eek@
turbokev: my hair is something i have to fix before i leave home
Mimi: next question:
Mimi: What are positive ways youve found to deal with your own embarassment?
turbokev: mime ur cute
al2: i just buzz all my hair off
Mimi: thanks, kev :o)
Mooooooo: I wear pants :o)
Mooooooo: seems to have cured the problem
turbokev: what happened to kit
Mimi: embarassment or self-consciousness
Mimi: LOL me too, Daniel!
judi: I wear as many clothes as possible
Mimi: she's on vacation, kev
Mooooooo: kit joined the french foreign legion
phoenyxx: Nowadays I try to ignore weird reactions from people, and I also keep in mind I'm not the only one :-)
turbokev: al2 i have a flat-top hair cut
Mimi: true, Simon
judi: good answer phoenyxx
al2: yup, i agree with phoenyxx
al2: the hell with 'em
judi: Some are hard to ignore
phoenyxx: thanks :-) for a while I went on camera in the chair then started hiding it because of all the nasty voicemail calls about it on the show,
Mimi: screw em simon, it's good for em anyway
phoenyxx: nowadays though I'm starting to let it be shown again and just ignoring the calls.
judi: I hide a lot but I am very shy
phoenyxx: Mimi: I know :-)
Mimi: you hide, judi? what do you mean?
judi: Don't go out
turbokev: we were at Cracker Barrel and some guy came up and said 'I hope you get better'
phoenyxx: I'm still shy but that's usually under certain conditions :-)
Mooooooo: there is also the 'take pictures butthead, they last longer' reply
judi: Like what
DopeHat: i don't go out much
turbokev: I'm to nice
phoenyxx: judi: talking to women. :-) no joke, I still get nervous about that, chair or no chair!
judi: I used to be an Rn, teaching patient info classes
Mooooooo: i had a guy stop me in the mall, start praying on me, and stated speaking in tongues
Mooooooo: scared the crap outta me
turbokev: i go out a lot
judi: I bet
Mimi: do you refrain from going out because you feel self-conscious, or for other reasons?
turbokev: thats nuts
Amazin1: lol...that's happened to me too Moo
judi: self-conscious
Mimi: did he live to do it again, Daniel?
turbokev: whois phoenyxx
Mooooooo: lol
Mooooooo: yep
phoenyxx: I don't go out as much as I'd like but that's just because I'm sometimes busy alot.
turbokev: is he a tv star
judi: Sometimes it just seems like too much trouble to take me along
Mimi: yes, Kev...but I'm the only one who knows who he really is
phoenyxx: I'm out during the day going to class, and I'm always out working on my show, so I got used to being around people in the chair after a while.
Mimi: so don't even ask, ok?
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Mimi: Judy, are these your feelings or do other people tell you that?
judi: my feelings
al2: mine too
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judi: thanks a12
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Mimi: you have just as much right to go out as anyone else
phoenyxx: I do at least try to go the movies- we have a couple of excellent accessable theatres here.
judi: nice to know someone else feels the same way
phoenyxx: I even saw an angelic vision in a movie theatre.
DopeHat: i think i look funny
* Mimi slaps phoenyxx around a bit with a large trout
phoenyxx: what?
Mooooooo: lol
Mooooooo: you mean.... HER?
DopeHat: i don't think i know
Mooooooo: the Sandra
Mimi: we are not discussing Sandra Bullock this evening.
Mooooooo: lol
Mimi: lol
phoenyxx: uh....what?
Mimi: jinx
DopeHat: sandra what
phoenyxx: I was just saying, we have two accessable theatres here, and I try to make it to a movie every now and then.
Mooooooo: Simon is twitterpated for Sandra Bullock
Mimi: next question:
judi: Are the theaters really accessible
phoenyxx: the only problem I have seeing a movie alone is carrying the popcorn.:-)
al2: I just watch gilligan's island on tv
Mimi: How has it helped to be able to laugh at yourself?
phoenyxx: judi: yes they are. they're great.
Mooooooo: I laugh at myself every time I go backpacking
judi: that's nice
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phoenyxx: I've learned to laugh at minor glitches during the day.
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iwiW: eek!
bee-jaah: If you can laugh at yourself then the rest of the world will laugh with you and not at you
iwiW: ddid you get my next question?
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phoenyxx: example- I always have my Discman with me, and a book or two to read along with my class notes. So, one afternoon my lift-van ride came and the driver said to me
phoenyxx: as I got on the lift 'it's going to be a long ride- I've got two other pickups'
phoenyxx: '...hope you're ready..'
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phoenyxx: to that I said 'what do you think?' while I held up my CD player and a thick novel :-)
judi: I have a lot of trouble dressing myself and tend to laugh when I see how I've ended up being dressed
* Mimi chuckles
phoenyxx: ...I've almost rolled out the door with one shoe on :-)
DopeHat: heh
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Mooooooo: I laugh at myself every time I go backpacking
Mimi: hello Jeff :o)
Mooooooo: i think i split
Amazin1: am I still here?
Mimi: I still see you all :o)
Amazin1: :)
Mooooooo: since there arent any restrooms in the forest and I cant bend my legs....
Mooooooo: Ive become a very good aim :o)
Mimi: LOL
Catz: bye
Mooooooo: bye Catz!!!
judi: Sometimes when things get too hard, all you can do is laugh
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Mimi: bye Catz!
Mimi: oops too late
Mooooooo: i refer to it as a bombing run
Mimi: I agree, judi, and that goes for anything or anyone
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Mimi: lol
judi: don't understand
Mimi: next question:
DopeHat: yes
Mimi: What do you find helps when you have a hard time making light of your disability?
judi: talking to my family
Amazin1: taking a nap :)
Mooooooo: making fun of able-bodied people brightens my day :o)
Mimi: LOL
Amazin1: lol....Moo
bee-jaah: talking to my dog
judi: Me too bee jah
bee-jaah: they are so understanding and never?
phoenyxx: for me, when I'm upset or a little embarrassed, I remind myself I'm not the only one. :-)
turbokev: anyone have trouble attracting the opposite sex
phoenyxx: and of course a good rant-fest is in order at times :-)
Mimi: I just tell myself how funny I would have looked on video :o)
Mooooooo: not me, I just have touble attracting the opposite sex who are old enough
judi: that's a good one Mmi
Mooooooo: I hope people dont start taking video cameras in the woods
Mimi: I wish I had one :o)
turbokev: i listen to music
Mimi: LOL
Mooooooo: I can see it on Hard Copy now.... 'Do gimps sh*t in the woods?'
* Mimi hopes they do! :o)
phoenyxx: Mooooo: uh, the video camera is the one of the greatest invention of all time :-)
turbokev: they probably do (tourist)
Mimi: yeah, you're sure to be captured on film somewhere, Daniel
Mooooooo: that is a camera that would never see daylight
Mooooooo: lol
phoenyxx: I wouldn't want cameras in the woods, they'd get me and some friends on video loading the trucks for our 'accessability initiative' project :-)
Mimi: Would anyone else like to ask a question, bring up an issue?
phoenyxx: I was just wondering, has anyone been thought of as being in denial about their disability when someone seems you acting natural about it?
Disabled: <Mooooooo> I would just like bring up the fact that im lagged
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Mimi: eek!
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Mimi: not me, simon
turbokev: sorry about that
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Amazin1: ouch
Mimi: wb everyone :o)
turbokev: i guess i went too far
phoenyxx: just something I've run into a few times.
turbokev: what is ping
Mooooooo: checking travel time betwwen users
Mooooooo: i dont have any questions :o)
Mimi: I've exhausted mine :o)
Mimi: ok...Fun Chat! :o)
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