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Lonewolf: Good evening
Woz: hehe
MsAmazin: hi :)
Mooooooo: hi :o)
Angel_27: hi :)
Lonewolf: Tonight we are going to compare living in the cpountry to living in the city
Lonewolf: country even
Lonewolf: ok how many of you are city dwellers?
Woz: city now
Angel_27: I live in city but wish country
MsAmazin: small town
Mooooooo: i live in the big city
Lonewolf: gee I have to represent rural america
Mooooooo: from small town though
Lonewolf: IC
MsAmazin: I'm rural
Woz: ditto was raised on farm
Lonewolf: what got this started was an issue of available services
Lonewolf: versus peace and tranquility
MsAmazin: heh..what available services?
Lonewolf: none?
MsAmazin: next to nil
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Mooooooo: peace and tranquility are where you find it
Angel_27: i wish I lived in country but not so far out it takes me an hour to get to store
Lonewolf: ok what about handicapped travel vehichles
Lonewolf: forgot what they are called
MsAmazin: no bus service or taxi service
Lily: wheeltrans, here
Lonewolf: you might as well live in country denise
Lonewolf: yes
MsAmazin: lol..I know
Mooooooo: there are services here
MsAmazin: Reno has Citilift
Lonewolf: what was that other name for that type service lil
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Lily: same here, but are unreliable, and u have to book ahead
Lonewolf: TJ we are comparing country vs city living
Angel_27: same here
MsAmazin: Paratrans?
Lily: wheeltrans, in ont.
Lonewolf: yes that was it
Woz: mostof ca has something dont know abt the back country
Lonewolf: how can you book ahead if its like for a doc's appt for just getting sick?
T_J: Yes, I know. Heard it earlier tonight.
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Angel_27: if you dont bok the ones here , you dont ride
Lily: well, thats it, you cant
Lonewolf: do you pay?
MsAmazin: same as in Reno
Angel_27: yes $2 a trip
MsAmazin: Reno is $1 a trip
Lonewolf: wow
Lily: i think so, ive never used it
Angel_27: thats how my husband gets to work most of the time
Lonewolf: will they take you anywhere?
Mooooooo: Laura has to book a day in advance
Woz: dis have discount pannual bus passes
Angel_27: but not after 6 pm or on Sundays
Lonewolf: goodness
Lonewolf: no ride to church huh?
Angel_27: not that way
MsAmazin: almost anywhere in Reno/Sparks area
Lonewolf: daniel have u ever lived in country?
Lily: ca is very adanced in its transit system, woz
Lonewolf: must be
Woz: also some spcl book ahead mini buss
Lily: is totally accessible
T_J: What tickets do you have to pay in advance? Bus?
Lonewolf: there is no peace like country peace
Angel_27: i agree
ROCK-: amen
Lonewolf: like a transit service TJ
Angel_27: thats why I said I wish I lived in country
Angel_27: cause where I live u hear sirens every 10 minutes
MsAmazin: I like living in a small town..but moving to the city
Lily: hmmmmmmmmm, i like it here, is like a small town, but near city
Angel_27: 2 minutes away from hospital
Woz: ca back countr is not what it was
T_J: Ok Lonewolf
Lonewolf: where I live there are no taxis no delivery etc
Lily: yes, thats an advantage, bev
Angel_27: yeah it is when I get sick, but other times the sirens get on my nerves
Angel_27: i live right downtown
Lily: city noises:)
Lonewolf: I would never sleep
Lonewolf: be glued to windows too nosey
ROCK-: Out here we have rabbits,squirrel,and peace and quiet
Angel_27: i have gotten used to it i guess
Lonewolf: same here
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Lonewolf: I have never lived in a big city
ROCK-: lonewolf you live in the city
Lonewolf: no i live wayyyyyyyyy out
Angel_27: oh yeah Im right down street from police station too
ROCK-: good
Lonewolf: how do you stand it?
Lonewolf: the noise and all
Angel_27: i wouldnt want to take forever to get to nearest neighbor or store though
smiley66: my city is over 100,000
MsAmazin: I live 74 miles from the city
Angel_27: i dont like it but im used to it i guess
Lonewolf: ic
Angel_27: i have been here 5 yrs
smiley66: i would love to live live in the country]
Lily: i find it handy to be able to walk to bank, etc.
Lonewolf: well disadvatages are the lack of services
smiley66: i live close to everything i need
ROCK-: me too
Lonewolf: me too
Angel_27: u live in country right rock?
Lonewolf: except for transportation etc
ROCK-: yep
Lonewolf: I can sit on porch in pjs
Angel_27: thats what I would like
ROCK-: oh,me too
Lily: i do that here:)
Lonewolf: lol
Lily: lots of trees
Lonewolf: my fav thing is to listen to birds first thing in am etc
Lonewolf: look out window at night and see deer
Angel_27: that sounds nice
Woz: hehe bird call piped in
Lonewolf: it is
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: lol
Woz: outside speekers
Lonewolf: lol
Angel_27: lol
Lonewolf: BUT
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: I have to rely on relatives all the time
ROCK-: i have humming birds,plenty and about 20 cardinals
Lonewolf: yup me too rock
Angel_27: so do I lonewolf thats why I said I wouldnt want to be too far out
Lonewolf: IC
Angel_27: but 1 minute from in laws is too close
Lily: actually, here too, plenty of foxes, too
Lonewolf: Have to admit it would be nice to call for my own ride somewhere
Lonewolf: you must live in very special place lil
Lonewolf: have trouble getting help out here
ROCK-: I vedeoed them during migration,and there must have been 200 humming birds 2ft. from me
Angel_27: wow rock
Lonewolf: sounds like best of both worlds
Lily: lots of ravines and parks
Lily: well, i think so
Lily: is an enclave within thec city
Lonewolf: daniel said earlier you can find peace and quiet anywhere I disagree
Angel_27: i dis agree
Woz: so do i
Lily: 20 min by car, and youre downtown
Lonewolf: what do you all think?
Woz: yes
Lily: o, i agree with daniel
Lily: inner peace
ROCK-: yes,I've lived in SanAntonio for 7 years and i was so happy to get in the country
Lonewolf: see I lived in a subdivision and stayed constantly on edge
Woz: we had to make our own
MsAmazin: I also agree with Daniel
Lonewolf: I disagree
Woz: the garden pond
Lonewolf: part of my peace is not having kids run through the yard
MsAmazin: some ppl can't be happy anywhere
Angel_27: its hard to find peace and quiet right downtown
Lonewolf: I'm happy here
Lily: true, ms
Woz: i also disagree
Lonewolf: hum
Lonewolf: what about noise and lights etc
MsAmazin: I wasn't questioning your happiness LW, I was just agreeing with Daniel :)
Woz: privacy is on the wain here
Lonewolf: oh I know
Lonewolf: privacy is wonderful here
Lily: im beginning to put less stock in surroundings, more in how i feel inside
Angel_27: no privacy here
Lonewolf: well yes
Lonewolf: BUT
Woz: noise is on increase
Lonewolf: lack of excessive noise etc helps
MsAmazin: If you've lived in the city all/most of your life..I don't think lights/noise would bother you as much as a 'country' person
Lily: true
Woz: very true
ROCK-: I agree
Lonewolf: cud be
Lily: you arec used to it
Lonewolf: I was raised in country
ROCK-: me too,picking cotton
Angel_27: i was raised in city but always loved to be at my grandparents in country
Lonewolf: do any of you get groceries and stuff delivered
MsAmazin: that's something I will need to adjust to
Lily: i was raised 3 blocks from here
Lonewolf: what denise
MsAmazin: just pizza delivered
Lonewolf: not even that here
MsAmazin: getting used to living in the city
Lily: havent moved around much
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Lonewolf: ok
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Lonewolf: Pat and I realize the time will come when this is impractical
Woz: hard to feel good on inside if outside is aggrivating
Lily: o, yes, from local IGA
Lonewolf: that's the way I feel max
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Lily: i can walk to it, they deliver
Lonewolf: any other goodies I don't know about?
Lonewolf: I had problems getting home health to come out here
Lily: well, my hairdresser isa block away, so is drugstore
Woz: am i in lag
Lonewolf: wow
Lonewolf: I could ride w/c that far
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Lonewolf: ok
Lily: and i can see the lake from my living room window
Lonewolf: suzze mentioned cultural activities
Lonewolf: such as theaters, museums etc
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Lonewolf: I have no access to those type things
MsAmazin: Reno, Carson City is an hour away for all that
Lonewolf: ok big question
Woz: true
Woz: the city grew up arround us
Woz: so we try and make a enviroment we feel good about
Lonewolf: how many of you prefer to be alone versus with people
Angel_27: it depends on my mood
MsAmazin: I'm half and half
Lily: a combination, i think
Lonewolf: I'm a loner
Lonewolf: that lives in a crowd
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Lonewolf: lol
Lily: im agaraphobic, a bit
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: BUT
Lonewolf: simply cannot tolerate crowds, noise etc
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Lonewolf: dony we are comparing city to country
MsAmazin: no wonder you live in the country
Driveshaf: ok
Lonewolf: exactly why denise
Lonewolf: need quiet and calm
Lonewolf: all of you city dwellers-picture living in the country
Lily: i like both worlds, love the far north, rugged
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Lonewolf: what would you miss the most
T_J: Hehe, I live in a town, close to the town centre but also close to the country. =)
Lonewolf: anyone?
Mooooooo: i can survive in both
Lonewolf: small town TJ?
Lonewolf: ok-how much would country living effect your Ability to do things you do now
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Lonewolf: anyone??
Lonewolf: there she is
suzze: city is best place to live
T_J: Kind of.
MsAmazin: is not!
MsAmazin: lol
Lonewolf: hey suzze tell them what all you were telling me the other day about city dwellers
Lily: lol
T_J: Depends on what city.
Lily: why, suzze?
Lonewolf: that's true was TJ
suzze: well, living in the city, more opportunities for socialization, more programs offered through the city
Woz: dan has a point however you must surveive
suzze: more access
Lonewolf: true but at what level?
Lonewolf: I just thought of a pos example for the city
Woz: at a leval you can live with
Lonewolf: here they have a nice senior citizen center
MsAmazin: suzze, you've always lived in Chicago, right?
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suzze: for the most part
Lily: i think happiness more a people thing, then where you live
Lonewolf: I would have no way to get there
suzze: 10 months in ca
suzze: sometime in suburbs of chicago
T_J: Likes one, where you can choose, not too far from the countryside, but not too small either, so that you don´t have the chance of finding what you need in it.
Lily: sounds ideal, t-j
Lonewolf: I miss the library
suzze: living in the city, i am close to everything, my doctor is 10-15 minutes away, i can get downtown in less than a half hour,
suzze: grocery stores, shopping everything is 5 min away
MsAmazin: well with the Internet you don't even need to live in a city to get what you need
Lily: true, ms, internet changes a lot
Lonewolf: in thew town where I go to the doctor they have shuttle buses from senior living facilities to doc offices, shops, etc
Lonewolf: can't imagine suzze
Lonewolf: what about listening to the sounds of nature
suzze: living in the city, with everything so close by, encourages me to leave my apt
Woz: i do believe city is better for many dis dependin on finantual status
suzze: if things were further away...maybe would get out less often
suzze: i need socializing, need to hang out w/friends, go places, see things
Lonewolf: yes but I do so dread having to give up my surroundings
Lonewolf: I don't though
suzze: i live two blocks from a park
suzze: that's scenery
Lonewolf: not the same suzze
MsAmazin: heh
Lonewolf: what about crime etc
suzze: crime is everywhere
suzze: country, city
Lily: crime? in canada?????? :))))
Woz: city or country now
Lonewolf: we don't lock doors most of the time
Lily: true, suzze
Woz: hehe
T_J: Yes, don´t think I would like it, in a very large city, but on the other hand, if I had to, I think I could adept, to that too. The hardest I think is the exhause fumes, from cars and so on.
Lonewolf: no crime in canafda?
T_J: Quite adeptible =)
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Lily: lol, well not as much
Lonewolf: yes TJ would hate that too
Lonewolf: why sis
Lily: but, we're catching up
Lonewolf: oh
Lily: i dont know, less violent society
suzze: most of my friends live in the same 5 mile area as I, where i grew up, we have all stayed in this area and that provides a great social circle for me, which is so vital i think for disabled ppl
Lonewolf: either place you live you have to sacrifice something unless you live with lily
Lily: i notice a big difference when i go to ca
Lonewolf: for some it is suzze
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: in what lily?
Woz: lily explain
suzze: that's true, i am single, though very close to my family
Lonewolf: my family is too close
suzze: lol
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Lonewolf: i feel suffocated in the city
Lily: im always being told to be alert, hold my purse, dont talk to straangers, etc.
Lonewolf: lil explain difference
Lonewolf: oh ok IC
Lonewolf: anny do u live in city or country
Lily: here, e never think of those things
Woz: think lily understands my point of viev
Lonewolf: me either
anny1: i live in mid size city
Lily: yup, woz
Lonewolf: yes I see both sides have advantages
Lonewolf: still dread moving to civilization
Lonewolf: we will when we need more assistance than we do now
Lily: and yet, i still maintain that you can find inner peace anywhere
Lonewolf: well does anyone have anything else?
Woz: wwe just try to carve out something we feel more comfertable with
Lily: yes
ROCK-: go woz
Lonewolf: still think the peace out here is worth some inconvenience
Lily: tailor your surroundings
Woz: as best you can
Lonewolf: ok I give
Lonewolf: lol
Lily: lol
Woz: hehe
suzze: it really does depend on your needs, i really need to live in a big city
Lonewolf: well I'm pushing off for tonight
Woz: so some merit in what dan said
Lily: you stick to your guns, sis
suzze: would not survive otherwise
anny1: i know what you are talking about lw,i grew up in a small town
T_J: I agree suzze.
Lonewolf: I feel same way about country
Woz: dito judi
Lily: ok, thx judi
Lily: :))
Woz: if the shoe fits ware it
suzze: come visit me i'll show u what's so great about the city!!!
Lonewolf: interesting but I still feel like when I move to town I will be getting ready to die
Lonewolf: suzze would scare me silly
Lily: then, stay in country, sis
Lonewolf: thanks everyone for a good discussion
Lonewolf: enjoyed it
Woz: yep do what is best for you
Lily: its where your heart is
Lily: thank you:)
Lonewolf: if anyone has any meeting ideas please send them to me
Lonewolf: yes it is sis
T_J: Ok
Lily: night all:)
Lonewolf: night
suzze: one last thing....CITY CITY CITY
suzze: lol
Lonewolf: lol
Lily: lol
Angel_27: lol
^^shaz^^: :)
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Woz: be good
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