Disabilities-R-Us

Created by and for people with physical disabilities.

Discrimination Among the Disabled

Jun 18, 1997

This is an archival transcript of one of our past meetings. We don't have scheduled topical meetings anymore, but we're not opposed to the idea of bringing them back if someone is willing to commit to hosting them on a "long term" basis.

Participants already present:
  HandiBot ([email protected])
  {Tripod}
  Mooooooo ([email protected])
  ChanServ ([email protected])
  Mimi_ ([email protected])
  HelloKit ([email protected])
  gordon4
  Dster
  lotaca
  DopeHat ([email protected])
  Wakko2
  duckgirl
  Mooooooo via Telnet ([email protected])
HelloKit: logging is on
duckgirl: how's everyone tonight
duckgirl: hey tripod
lotaca: 18:01
Mooooooo: ok, Im ready :o)
Dster: logging is on? Is that like big brother watching?
lotaca: I R LOL
HelloKit: You guys think I should ask questions in all caps so people see them?
Mimi_: whatever you say is recorded for all eternity from now on
HelloKit: LOL Dster
Mimi_: good idea, Carly
Mooooooo: excellent idea
HelloKit: Or I could do bold, but not all programs can see that...
lotaca: WHAT EVER WORKS
Mooooooo: i'll just turn my volume down
{Tripod}: hehehe
Dster: Questions? Nobody told me there going to be a test!
DopeHat: lol
{Tripod}: a quiz!
* Dster looking at mimi's paper.
HelloKit: READY TO START?
Mooooooo: yep
lotaca: ok
gordon4: tes
DopeHat: what
Dster: pencils ready!
gordon4: yes
* Mooooooo is ready to rumble!
lotaca: wait, I broke my eraser
{Tripod}: no. 2 pencil?
lotaca: ok fixed it
* Mimi_ slaps Dster around a bit with an Aquarium.
Dster: #2 or #3 whatever it takes.
HelloKit: STARTING WITH MIMI, WHAT IS AN EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE HAD THAT RELATES TO DISCRIMINATION AMONG THE DISABLED?
Mimi_: ack!
Dster: Oh jeez this is sounding more like truth or dare.
HelloKit: Well, you're at the top of the list... :o)
Dster: take the dare mimi!
Mimi_: I don't think I have, Carly...I have to think about it :o(
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{Tripod}: i'm glad i'm at the bottom
HelloKit: Unless you want me to ask ChanServ and HandiBot...
zMooooooo: doh
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HelloKit: Doesn't work that way, Mooooooo... LOL
Mimi_: can you move on and I'll pop in when I;m ready with my answer?
HelloKit: MOOOOOOO?
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Mooooooo: My only experience is with Simon
HelloKit: LOL, come on you guys...
Wakko2: heh, heh. I gotta get dinner
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Wakko2: bbl
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Mooooooo: Ive been discriminated against, but not by another disabled person because of my disability
HelloKit: COULD YOU SUMMARIZE THAT FOR THE PEOPLE HERE THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT?
Mimi_: OK...I know what...I'm afraid I do it to myself...at first, and even now sometimes, I feel awkward in the group because I have epilepsy and am not physically disabled. I have asked myself if I really belong here.
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duckgirl: I have had trouble with other disabled individuals in my place of employment
Mooooooo: Ooooh, very good mimi
{Tripod}: i'm new to being disabled so i don't think i've seen any Discrimination
Mimi_: But no one has ever intimated that I should leave. :o)
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Mimi_: what kind of troubles, duckgirl?
HelloKit: LIKE WHAT, DUCKGIRL?
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{Tripod}: brb
duckgirl: I used to walk all the time...on crutches...then when I came back to work in a wheelchair
Wrenn: Hi, I'm Renee.
Mooooooo: Hi Renee :o)
gordon4: I've been disabled for 42 years and have a yet been discriminated against.
Mimi_: welcome, Renee :o)
duckgirl: I needed to have some things changed so I could get around...
duckgirl: there is one guy in the office with polio who has fussed and fussed about everyhting my employer has done for me
duckgirl: almost like he is jealous
* HelloKit nods.
duckgirl: or can't face up to his own needs
gordon4: he is
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duckgirl: or disability
Mimi_: hey Amy! :o)
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Mooooooo: Hi Amy and Wheels
laidback: hi all
AmyWonder: hi
laidback: hi moooo
laidback: hi duckgirl
HelloKit: AMYWONDER, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN DISABLED PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE AGAINST EACH OTHER?
duckgirl: hi laidback
Mooooooo: Give Amy a sec to settle in :o)
duckgirl: hello
HelloKit: ping me
laidback: so whats the top tonight?
Mooooooo: To the new arrivals, all questions tonight are in bold and caps
HelloKit: OKAY, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE?
Mooooooo: Discrimination Among the Disabled
HelloKit: Thanks Mooooooo.
lotaca: does, sorta
laidback: hi hellokit
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HelloKit: DO TELL, LOTACA... :o)
Mooooooo: hi sweet :o)
HelloKit: Hey laidback, SweetHP
lotaca: are all wheelchair users materialistic ?
SweetHP: Hi!
laidback: huh???
HelloKit: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, LOTACA?
zzdster: what the #$#$?
lotaca: I mean I have this cheap donated chair, and when I inquire of others
Wrenn: ?
lotaca: about their chairs I get snubbed
Mooooooo: ive seen a lot of complaining because one person has a Quickie and another one doesnt
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AmyWonder: well, when I lived in a dorm for disabled some made fun of me
lotaca: It's not that I hold a passion for ANY chair
lotaca: but because mine is 10000 years old ?
laidback: yea thats what kind i got after ears
laidback: years
Mooooooo: I agree, a chair is a chair
Mimi_: and I've heard people talk about how 'cool' their chair looks, that for them it's like buying a car: it can't just be a chair with 4 wheels
Wrenn: i've seen some snobbishness at Ability Expo's - it's sophomoric.
SweetHP: Why should anyone snub you because of your chair brand name? We all need certain things that not all chair makers can provide.
Mimi_: ping me
lotaca: Sorry to admit it, but I thought we were supposed to help each pther, it really hurts
duckgirl: well with a chair must must conside comfort and easy moving when your in it all the time
Mooooooo: i think its like Nike's as opposed to k-mart brand
HelloKit: Well, I admit I like the look of my chair too... it does matter, but it's not what's important.
DopeHat: ping me
Dster: If the coolness of the chair is directly related to how function it makes a person then I don't see anything wrong with being proud of it.
laidback: shouldnt brag but is most near 2 car i will come unless i get rich
HelloKit: But I would never make fun of someone because I thought my chair was nicer.
SweetHP: I agree Dster!
Mooooooo: Amy, how did they make fun of you
AmyWonder: I have cp and they had md, and
Mooooooo: ?
lotaca: Cool chairs are cool chairs, all I did was ask
laidback: true hello
Dster: I really could care less what they look like I care how they perform.
SweetHP: Me too!
HelloKit: But for me, I know I'd rather be seen in my black and teal chair than in the raspberry pink chair I used to have... yuck!
HelloKit: But if someone else has a pink chair, so what?
SweetHP: I had a neon pink Quickie, but now I have an Action XT.
laidback: they were just js ppl in and out can b at times right all
duckgirl: I have to admit i like my cool...splatter white quickie
AmyWonder: when I cryed
laidback: aww
Dster: My chairs always have to much dirt on them to tell what color they are :)
HelloKit: LOL
Dster: and that is the way I like em.
Wrenn: lol
Mimi_: *g*
HelloKit: I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS SOMETHING...
Dster: Gives them that lived in look.
SweetHP: The Quickie just couldn't hold up to camping and things like that...but my XT can!
{Tripod}: i'm back, i know yall didn't miss me
laidback: lol yea its something how much they can get on and in them dster
* Mooooooo loves camping :o)
laidback: what hello?
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DopeHat: i know in high school we would drag race
Mooooooo: Lao!!!!
lotaca: ASK AWAY
Mimi_: Hello Han! :o)
HelloKit: IN THE DISABLED MESSAGE BOARDS ON AOL, ESPECIALLY THE PARKING BOARD, PEOPLE HAVE LITTLE FIGHTS OVER WHO HAS MORE OF A RIGHT TO THE DISABLED PARKING SPACES...
duckgirl: Sweethp...I have to disagree with you my quickies has been all over the world thru all sorts of stuff
{Tripod}: drag race?
* Lao-tzu says greeting, grettings to all
* Lao-tzu says greeting, grettings to all
Mimi_: and brag about who had the faster chair, Keith?
duckgirl: hey how do you get to those boards
Mooooooo: greetings
lotaca: People with LEGAL placards/plates do
AmyWonder: they were all guys: I was thee only woman
Mooooooo: To the new arrivals, all questions tonight are in bold and caps
HelloKit: IS THIS A DISCRIMINATION THING, OR COULD BUSINESSES, ETC. HAVE CAUSED THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T PROVIDE ENOUGH SPACES?
lotaca: I'm sorry, did I start something ?
DopeHat: but we wouldn't fight
laidback: m quickie has the big tires and lot of power 1 thing i like i dont get stuck
Dster: It is more of a legal/moral/medical thing in my mind.
Mooooooo: It's simply a factor that whether abled or disabled, people like to bitch
SweetHP: Duckgirl...do you have aol?
laidback: true hello theres not near enough
Mimi_: In misc.handicap, there was griping overthe elderly using handicapped parking
{Tripod}: that's right Moo
lotaca: Business IS to blame, followed by the abled body folks who use someone elses placard
Lao-tzu: ooh boy, i'm going to be silent for a while trying to figure out what's going on
Dster: It is always difficult for Dr
Dster: It is always difficult for Dr
duckgirl: sweetHpAOL is not my provider
Mimi_: my grandmother is 93 and uses a walker...is she less entitled to use a h. space just because her disability is the result of old age?
Dster: It is always difficult for Dr's to enforce public policy.
HelloKit: I MEAN, PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MORE SEVERE DISABILITY, THEY'RE MORE ENTITLED. IS THIS JUST BECAUSE WE STRUGGLE TO GET AHOLD OF THE FEW SPACES THERE ARE?
Mooooooo: I know exactly who should them
laidback: old pll have just same right as we i think
Mooooooo: anyone who needs a lot of space to get in and out of a car
{Tripod}: i agree again Moooo
Mimi_: or who has trouble walking very far, like my gramma
Mooooooo: that was next :o)
lotaca: Wouldn't be a parking problem if parking slots were used correctly
HelloKit: I UNDERSTAND THAT, MIMI. BUT WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE FACT THAT EVERYONE GETS A PERMIT WHEN THEY TURN 65.
{Tripod}: the space thing is it
DopeHat: do what i do take two regular spaces
gordon4: No they don't get a permit wgen they turn 65 here in RI
Mimi_: well, that's ridiculous, Carly...they have to have a legitimate disability
{Tripod}: i've yet to take two
duckgirl: I like the taking two spaces idea
Dster: Why not go for the disability hat trick and take three spaces :)
laidback: 1 thing that ticks me is 1 they have the space for us but its so small if u have a ramp u in the drive wave and have to look out 4 cars
laidback: !!!
duckgirl: this parking situtatio is way out of control
Wrenn: hahaha - hat trick
lotaca: more ways than one
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Mimi_: hey dtb! :o)
dtb: hello all
lotaca: hey hey
Mooooooo: hey dtb!
HelloKit: ANYWAY, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY'RE MORE ENTITLED TO OTHER SERVICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MORE SEVERE DISABILITY?
AmyWonder: they should make a whole row os reserved spaces
duckgirl: there are way to many hanging plates arouns here...I hate it
{Tripod}: the only thing that tics me off is when they stick the nose of the vehicle over the side walk
DopeHat: and don't call the police cause they won't come
lotaca: Not enough parking stalls, too much misuse by the non disabled, inadequate facilities and a partridge in a pear tree
DopeHat: or ramp
HelloKit: LOL lotaca
Mooooooo: hah
HelloKit: Ain't that the truth...
laidback: lol
HelloKit: OKAY, I JUST HAD ANOTHER BRAINSTORM...
duckgirl: go kit
laidback: what?
nate_: what?
HelloKit: I'VE OFTEN FELT LIKE I DON'T BELONG AT MDA CAMP, BECAUSE I'M NOT DYING OR GETTING WORSE LIKE THE OTHER KIDS ARE...
lotaca: Have to go, sorry
lotaca: bye all
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{Tripod}: seeya man
Mooooooo: bye latoca
HelloKit: BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M IMAGINING IT, OR IF THE OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY TOO.
Mooooooo: For the benefit of those who may need to leave early, you can download the entire meeting from our web site at http://members.tripod.com/~disabled
laidback: bye lotaca
Dster: We're all dying.....some of us are just on a tighter schedule.
laidback: coooool ds
HelloKit: SOMETIMES I THINK I'M JUST BEING PARANOID...
laidback: like that
{Tripod}: cool way of saying it Dster
duckgirl: I don't feel like I belong at any of those diabled things
HelloKit: BUT OTHER TIMES I THINK I SENSE BITTERNESS FROM SOME PEOPLE...
DopeHat: and why don't they ask disabled people before they make parking spaces
AmyWonder: I felt a little gullity
gordon4: goodnight
Dster: Why don't they ask disabled people before they build anything?
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Mooooooo: see ya gordon!
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HelloKit: WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
Lao-tzu: hi Chickadee
Mooooooo: Im sure its real, Carly
Chickadee: Hello
SweetHP: Oh yes Kit...you're right.
duckgirl: I'v got to go...bye
Mooooooo: Hi Chickadee :o)
Mimi_: Carly, I think that your feelings are normal and natural, you're not being paranoid.
Mooooooo: bye duckgirl!
{Tripod}: i agree Carly
Mimi_: bye duckgirl!! :o)
DopeHat: bye
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HelloKit: I ENJOY CAMP, AND I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THERE... BUT SOMETIMES I WONDER IF MY SPACE COULD BE BETTER SPENT...
Mooooooo: this isnt unique among this disabled
AmyWonder: but never talked about it
laidback: brb
Mimi_: you deserve to go there too Carly
Dster: you take up a parking space at camp?
Mooooooo: plain old envy and jealousy
laidback: k back
{Tripod}: don't worry about Kit, you are deserving
DopeHat: if they say its ok then go Carly
HelloKit: LOL no I mean the bed, the food, the space I take up at camp. Someone doesn't get to go, because I'm there.
Mimi_: You're not less deserving than someone else Carly
SweetHP: But Kit...there is more than one camp.
{Tripod}: you care to go, and i believe that is enough
Lao-tzu: Dster you asked why *they* don't ask disabled people before they build something. I thing that perhaps it is up to us to become more proactive and actually take part in the design process. That may be by actually asking to be part of the comitee in charge or banging on the door of the council-person responsible
Mooooooo: yep
AmyWonder: Kit, you have a right to hace fun too
Dster: there is I have never been to camp...I mean I have been camping but that is different.
Mimi_: good point, Han
laidback: same here
Mooooooo: i went to camp once
Mooooooo: never got invited back
DopeHat: yea that sounds good lao
Mimi_: hahaha
AmyWonder: just cause you aren''t dying
Mimi_: I wonder why, Daniel....*g*
HelloKit: DO YOU THINK THE PHYSICALLY DISABLED DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE LEARNING DISABLED, OR VICE-VERSA?
SweetHP: I went to camp quite a few years!
{Tripod}: is this camp just for cp people?
Mooooooo: because they had to take me to the emergency room 3 times
laidback: never have alwas just got in trouble with my cuz !!
laidback: hehe
Mooooooo: depends on what you mean by discriminate
Mimi_: Well, at misc.handicap I've had people e-mail me wondering 'what I'm doing there' :oP
Dster: as mama gump used to say disabled is as disabled does.
SweetHP: Where I live it is vice-versa.
HelloKit: LOL
Mooooooo: haha
Mimi_: hahaha
{Tripod}: where do you live SweetHP?
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Mooooooo: hi assid
DopeHat: heh
assid: HEY HOWS IT GOING
laidback: hi assid
Mooooooo: great :o)
Mimi_: hey assid :o)
SweetHP: There is more support for the learning disabled than the physically disabled. I live near Roanoke, Virginia.
laidback: same old u?
Mooooooo: what is the rario?
Mooooooo: ratio
assid: IF IT TAKES ME AWHILE TO TYPE ITS BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE ONE ARM WITH 2 FINGERS
assid: :)
Mooooooo: of learning to physical disabilities
nate_: Where i live the people that threten to sue get the help
laidback: that works
Mimi_: no problem, assid :o)
Dster: I think there is more support in general because there is less opportunity for that population.
assid: INEED A SUPPORT GROUP!!!
HelloKit: A lot of us are slow typists here, assid.
{Tripod}: hey assid use what you got
HelloKit: Same here, nate.
Dster: Not to mention us bad spellers assid :)
SweetHP: Of course...most people here think if you're physically disabled, then you're learning disabled as well.
Wrenn: :) assid
laidback: hey have ten still cant type worth [email protected]
laidback: hehe
assid: HOW ABOUT MY DICK
Mooooooo: very true Sweet
Wrenn: lolol
DopeHat: i type slow
HelloKit: Very true, SweetHP... even our school district is guilty of that one.
Lao-tzu: Before my accident I had a different perception of disabled people; I didn't understand how many variations of disability existet, however, even before my accident I have never discriminated against slower learners or for that matter anybody. What I have learned is to deal with the different forms of disability (not everything of course -- I don't know them all) As far as that thing about people saying 'I'm going to ask a *stupid* question'
Mooooooo: my elementary school was like that
assid: I UNDERSTAND
Lao-tzu: I have alsways replied 'the only *stupid* question is the one that doesn't get asked'
assid: well my person needs to help go pee
assid: byree
Mimi_: thank you, Han, for saying that....I have lots of 'stupid' questions :o)
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laidback: :)
SweetHP: I would say, by ratio, there are more learning disabled here than physically disabled. However, most with physical disabilities here stay in the closet.
SweetHP: They think they can't do things everyone else does.
assid: if your lost all of your appendages would you have rto type with your private parts
HelloKit: DSTER HAS A QUESTION...
Mimi_: that sux, SweetHP
SweetHP: I know it does.
{Tripod}: i have a hard time getting out right now and i have to agree with SweetHP on that
laidback: what
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
assid: why wont people talk to me
Dster: So if I hear you right sweet if we are in the closet we don't count or exsist?
Dster: no I dont
HelloKit: DO PEOPLE ACT DIFFERENTLY TOWARD PEOPLE WITH CONGENITAL DISABILITIES THAN THEY DO TOWARD PEOPLE WHO ACQUIRED THEIR DISABILITIES LATER IN LIFE?
HelloKit: Oops, forgot to bold that...
Lao-tzu: SweetHP: do you really think that way, I have met many persons in wheelchairs that run support groups, myself, I just came back from the Residents Executive meeting, etc.
SweetHP: When I got married to an able-bodied man, it was thought that he was condemning himself to a life of taking care of me.
SweetHP: Well...where do you live?
HelloKit: DO PEOPLE ACT DIFFERENTLY TOWARD PEOPLE WITH CONGENITAL DISABILITIES THAN THEY DO TOWARD PEOPLE WHO ACQUIRED THEIR DISABILITIES LATER IN LIFE?
HelloKit: There.
{Tripod}: what is your disablity SweetHP?
SweetHP: CP.
DopeHat: i don't know
Wrenn: is everyone here a regular on the ng's? which ones?
AmyWonder: yes kit
Lao-tzu: SweetHP, my friend Lynne is married to an able-bodied man and they have a beautiful girl -- none of the friends feels he's got anything less of a person
laidback: got 2 sa i have been bad on that of times sweet thinking what itmeans 4 a lady to b with me
* HelloKit reads misc.handicap
Dster: Deffinate yes from me kit.
HelloKit: IN WHAT WAYS?
* Mooooooo reads alt.cows.moo.moo.moo
Mimi_: Wrenn, I'm a reg reader of misc.handicap and alt.support.epilepsy, and alt.support.jaw-disorders
SweetHP: Well, we have a 12 yr. old son, that happens to be an honor student in school.
Dster: More likely to get the Isn't he a miracle crap if you have had it all your life IMHO.
laidback: cool sweet congrats!
* HelloKit agrees.
SweetHP: That didn't keep the kids from picking on him calling me a 'M-F cripple'.
{Tripod}: i'm kinda scared to be with a woman now after the accident. I just don't know how to make them comfortable about my condition
Mooooooo: People tell me 'im special' all time
* HelloKit gags!
Wrenn: I sometimes think but hate] that I am less discriminated against because I have a late onset disorder and don't look i'm not being intentionally offensiive]
Dster: Another thing is that the recently disabled spend way to much time and energy on cures IMHO.
Mooooooo: the next one gets his lights punched out
DopeHat: i get tired of that moo
Wrenn: look disabled - sorry
{Tripod}: i agree Moooo
laidback: yea know what u mean moo
SweetHP: Oh but how about how much of an 'Inspiration' you are?!
laidback: hate that
Lao-tzu: Tripod: My wife and I have made several adjustment after my accident. In some ways you loose in others you win. On balance as rotten as it sounds I think we're ahead
laidback: get that 2
Mooooooo: SweetHP? have you been reading my homepage???
Mooooooo: /:o)
HelloKit: Although I can't have kids, I do plan to adopt someday... I can't bare the thought of someone feeling sorry for my daughter because she has a disabled mother.
SweetHP: No...should I Moooooo?
DopeHat: how about i will pray for you
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AmyWonder: They seem to act like even more sorry for thoose whoo
Mooooooo: hahahaha, that too Keith
{Tripod}: i think i would be much comfortable trying to sustane a relationship with another person in my condition to tell you the truth
Mooooooo: 'Inspiration' was on my list too
HelloKit: And if I don't get out of this toen I live in, that's going to happen.
* SweetHP says 'Now I am sick'
HelloKit: town
Mooooooo: tell them to pray for an IQ
laidback: hate when fam usese me if did something way i am they can that dont woork
SweetHP: Well, my son was an outcast at one school he attended, but it didn't stop with the kids. Their parents treated him and us like outcasts.
Wrenn: my DREAm is to have a nice relationship with someone else with my disorder.
Wrenn: more understanding
Mooooooo: what is your disorder?
{Tripod}: i have a son and i am scared he will be ashamed of me since i am in the chair now
Wrenn: both ways
SweetHP: At PTA meetings...they wouldn't sit near us...they would stand rather than sit anywhere we were.
AmyWonder: or tooo prray for understandingg
* Mimi_ is now officially disgusted, SweetHP
Wrenn: Friedreich's ataxia - there aren't many of us!
HelloKit: WHY DO THE BLIND GET A SPECIAL INCOME TAX DEDUCTION (CHECK HERE IF YOU ARE BLIND...)? SHOULDN'T THAT SAY 'CHECK HERE IF YOU ARE DISABLED'... IF ANYTHING AT ALL?
Wrenn: hmmmmmm
laidback: ppl have been like that with me sweet
Mooooooo: I prefer a breathing deduction
Lao-tzu: SweetHP, I guess children can get pretty nasty. I have 2 grown ups (26 & 27) and the younger one and his friends still ask me to pull out my old Fender Strat and jam with them. They lift me into places I couldn't otherwise get into
{Tripod}: Man.....it sounds like the people in your communittee suck, SweetHP
HelloKit: LOL
Wrenn: lol
laidback: unless they get to know me then things change slow
HelloKit: That works too, Mooooooo.
HelloKit: 'Check here if you took more than 3 breaths of our polluted oxygen in 1996...'
DopeHat: lol
Mimi_: hahahahah
SweetHP: At the Halloween party they had...I heard the PTA president tell another judge not to vote for my son. 'He belongs to the one in the wheelchair, so he's not even in the running.'
AmyWonder: i've never heard of that duction!
HelloKit: WHAT?!?!?
HelloKit: I would kill!!!
laidback: where u from sweet???
Dster: amy have you ever done your own taxes?
DopeHat: run him over
Lao-tzu: SweetHP this forum is going faster than I can read and type but I think you have it pretty hard.
AmyWonder: THATS
Dster: It stands out so much you have to be blind......oh never mind.
HelloKit: Now I'm steamed...
{Tripod}: you need to move SweetHP
SweetHP: I was so shocked, but they didn't know I was behind them! They got the cussing of their life!!!
AmyWonder: AN OUTRAGE!
laidback: go
SweetHP: Well...I did them one better!
Mimi_: what did you tell them???
DopeHat: yea
{Tripod}: The people in my hometown are great about my condition
Dster: cussing of a life.....so you have turrets as well sweet?
laidback: sweethp where u from?
SweetHP: I built a new home...moved...and got really active in the parent volunteer program.
Mooooooo: good for you :o)
SweetHP: Now...the kids all love me!
* Mimi_ cheers
HelloKit: Good for you, SweetHP.
SweetHP: I've even been asked to teacj a few classes!
AmyWonder: good foor you Sweet!
SweetHP: Oops...teach.
nate_: people in my town are trying to get rid of spechal ed,and give the money to ib programs
laidback: cool
Wrenn: Lao-tzu - are you a musician?
Mooooooo: ib programs?
Lao-tzu: SweetHP: Now the reason for my nick comes out. You need to get yourself a copy of a book -- The Art of Strategy by R.L. Wing -- that deals with the teachings of an ooold chinese general called Sun-Tzu. I think you could find it extremely useful
laidback: gotta go bbl all take care have fun!!!!!!!
HelloKit: That couldn't possible be legal, nate...
Mimi_: what are 'ib programs?'
Mooooooo: see ya laidback
Mooooooo: For the benefit of those who may need to leave early, you can download the entire meeting from our web site at http://members.tripod.com/~disabled
{Tripod}: seey laid back
nate_: ib= relly upper level wated G.P.A.
laidback: bye all
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Mooooooo: ah, ok
Mimi_: bye laidback!
HelloKit: What about someone like me? I'm both...
SweetHP: You should see these parents faces when their kids run up to me and hug me, then tell their parents that I teach them in computer class! gt;
Lao-tzu: Mimi_ 'ib' program is a viewer program for Netsscape or other browsers I think
Dster: and modest as well.
HelloKit: I was in Talented and Gifted, as they call it here... and special ed. for my physical needs.
{Tripod}: Is anyone in there 20
{Tripod}: Is anyone in there 20's i mean
* Mooooooo is 33
Mimi_: I am, Tripod : 27
AmyWonder: i'm 29
Dster: emotionally barely out of my teens.
Mimi_: why?
* Wrenn is 39 forever! ;)
{Tripod}: just wondering
Mimi_: hahaha
{Tripod}: i'm 23
nate_: kit they would try to get you out of the cass i tryed it is too much of a hasel
* Lao-tzu is half a century
Fuzzie1: I'm 29
* SweetHP is 35
DopeHat: 23
dtb: 25
* HelloKit will be 18 in 16 days...
Dster: oh geez the peer pressure 34 ok?
Mooooooo: 15 Days : 4 Hours : 59 Minutes : 55 Seconds
Lao-tzu: Tripod but I still play a mean Fender Strat
SweetHP: Hey Dster...that's cool!
HelloKit: Mooooooo and his counter...
Mimi_: ping me
Mooooooo: i guess i should find out how my old school is now
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Mooooooo: i looked for it on the web but couldnt find it
Dster: Any other Califonian on here tonight?
Lao-tzu: Dster I used to be from La Palma
dtb: I am. LA. Where r u at?
SweetHP: Geez! I got booted off!
* HelloKit was born in CA... but don't tell anyone!
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Dster: artie?
nate_: at my school web page they have every other darparment but speachel ed
artemus: yes
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Dster: Geez it really is a small world....hehehehe
Chickadee: I'm in CA too
artemus: who are u Dster?
HelloKit: Yikes Mimi... you're lagged...
Wrenn: I'm on the beach in southern CA
* Lao-tzu didn't have time to cook and the food just
Dster: artie you know who this is!
artemus: nope...fill me in...
DopeHat: geez everyone is in ca
artemus: California IA!
jdejan: hello there. am I too late?
SweetHP: Well, gotta runn guys...it was fun! If you want to email me feel free, my address is: [email protected]
{Tripod}: i'm not, Tripod is from Arkansas
Mooooooo: For the benefit of those who may need to leave early, you can download the entire meeting from our web site at http://members.tripod.com/~disabled
Mooooooo: see ya sweet!!!
Mimi_: I'm better now, I thing Carly
{Tripod}: see ya Sweet
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Mimi_: bye Sweet HP
HelloKit: Well y'all...
Mooooooo: hi mako!
Lao-tzu: bye I'm really hungry and this stuff should be eaten warm, see you all soon. Cheers!
Mooooooo: see ya Han!
dtb: bye
*** Lao-tzu has left irc (I'm really hungry and this stuff should be eaten warm, see you all soon. Cheers!)
* DopeHat is from oklahoma
HelloKit: I have to get up really early tomorrow... going to visit my best friend that I haven't seen in ages...
Mimi_: hey mako :o)
nate_: i live in colorado
Mooooooo: bye Carly!
nate_: see ya
{Tripod}: Dope we are neighbors
dtb: bye Carly
mako: Mimi, Hi
DopeHat: bye carly
HelloKit: See you all later...
{Tripod}: see ya carly
Mimi_: for the record, I am a wannabe San Diegan
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