Lonewolf: Hi welcome to the meting
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Lonewolf: Please remember our meeting rules
Lonewolf: no excess chat
Lonewolf: topic only
Lonewolf: type ! for a statement
turbokev: i havent been here a while
Lonewolf: and ? for a question
Lonewolf: and wait until you are called upon before speaking
Lonewolf: any questions before we start
Lonewolf: Back earlier in the year we discussed goals
Lonewolf: short term and long term
Lonewolf: we decided then to revisit our goals periodically
Lonewolf: So tonight is revisit goal night or make new goals night
Lonewolf: remember our goals must be reasonable and attainable
Lonewolf: and we must have a plan
Lonewolf: anyone recall their goals?
Lonewolf: ali
Lily: no, i shoudve made a list:)
Lonewolf: lol
Lonewolf: Karen
Kark: My goal was to become organized, my life is a struggle with the mess my life is
Lonewolf: ok how have you done
Kark: I started at home and cleaned out everything to find a better ways of storing to make thing easier to access
Lonewolf: that's good anything else
Lily: great
Lonewolf: turk?
Kark: I tire easy and have received some help but still not done
Lonewolf: that's ok
Lonewolf: turbokev
Lonewolf: go ahead turbokev
Lonewolf: charlie?
Lonewolf: beat?
Lonewolf: Kim
Lonewolf: ok well I failed every single goal
Lonewolf: lily
Lily: is this a rollcall?
beat|: sorry as i am new i am not sure
Lonewolf: lol
Lily: sorry, joke
Lonewolf: beat do you have any goals?
Lonewolf: Mine were to eat a better diet
Lonewolf: do some exercise daily esp rom
Kark: hows that coming
Lonewolf: lose weight and pray daily
Lonewolf: terrible Karen
beat|: I have a aim to travel around au in a small van
Lonewolf: that's a goal beat-do you havre an idea on how to make it happen
Lonewolf: I have a new goal
Lonewolf: turbokev
beat|: Yes well I been busy settin up my van and car
Lonewolf: ok-when are you going?
turbokev: My goal is to eventually get a Bachelor degree in Business
Lonewolf: that's a good one
Lonewolf: how far along are you
Lonewolf: Karen
Lonewolf: wait up a sec kark
turbokev: i've gotten half way
Lonewolf: that's great
Lonewolf: now Karen
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Kark: LW you said you had a new goal, what is that?
Lonewolf: Ms we arediscussing our goals
MsAmazin: ok
Lonewolf: well after my scare last week I realized my goals were all wrong
Lonewolf: I needed to start spending less computer time
Lonewolf: and more people time
beat|: Well my mother hasn't be al that well, and thgat been a bit of a hold up, i was hoping to get away at the end of this month.
Kark: scares do change things
Lonewolf: yes
Lonewolf: sorry to hear beat
Lonewolf: which brings up another point
Lonewolf: what IF life interferes with our goals
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judi: ok
Lily: med. probs do interfere, but i think it delays my goals, rather than changing them
judi: try again
Lily: med. probs do interfere, but i think it delays my goals, rather than changing them
Lily: lol
judi: good point lily
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judi: but don't you have to redefine your ways to accomplish the goal
judi: are we having a net split?
Lily: yes, definitly, is a bumpo in the road
judi: yes
Lily: no, bad connections
judi: ok
judi: Karen oddly enough I actually remembered your goals
judi: sounds like you are the only one that made progress
judi: go ahead Karen
KimNchair: nite
Kark: I have been getting depressed when my goals aren't going as pland
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judi: well that's not good either
judi: but I do that too
judi: maybe your goals were too hard?
beat|: i feel we must be a little bit fexbile with them, and also being disable our health problems and we must aloud for them
judi: true beat
judi: lily
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Lily: i agree beat, we mustnt get discouraged
judi: do any of you set ridiculously high goals for yourselves?
judi: lily
Lily: i think they are attainable, within reach
beat|: s
judi: kark
Kark: mine seem so simple yet too high to accomplish for me, thing are becoming a challange but I really dont tell anyone the struggle I feel about it
judi: Karen is this getting harmful to you?
Kark: Here I tell all, get it off my chest
MsAmazin: my goal is to keep breathing...one breath at a time...
judi: I'm glad Karen
judi: that's good too ms
judi: beat?
Kark: I think I can handle that one MsA
beat|: omtimes i feel that its good to set goals a littile higher than we can artain thats keeps us going
judi: lil
Lily: thats true, beat, maybe we need a mix of both kinds, to feel like weve achieved something........
Lily: yet
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Lily: still strive
judi: both good points
judi: Karen I am agfraid you have set your goals way too high
judi: beat
Kark: I think I keep focusing on how far I am from the end instead of keeping it in a day
Kark: sorry, out of turn
judi: ok so you need to change your way of looking at them
judi: go on beat
judi: lil
beat|: yes its too easy to lose site of the smal goals we make , but if we have a higher goal then ou smaller goals are a lead up
Lily: idea : at end of each day, review what youve accomplished kark, wud that help?
Kark: I think that sounds good
judi: beat actually you just explained the original point
judi: and for some of us the daily review is helpful
judi: small goals leading to bigger goals
judi: lil
Lily: its like taking baby steps, so the big picture not so frightening
judi: exactly
judi: beat
judi: charlie
atrpilot: does stauing off puter help ,,judi
judi: yes that's my biggest problem
judi: hard to reach goals when you are glued to screen
judi: beat-you ready?
atrpilot: yes
beat|: If we don't aloud our self the smaller goals i feel we may become lost , on our way
judi: ok could you explain
judi: kark
Kark: I find that I get less done when I spend so much time on the PC and then I have an excuss for not getting it done
judi: true
judi: lily
Lily: i find that scheduling puter times helps, i stay off it a lot now thoughout day
judi: ok I'd like to share a secret goal with you guys and what happened
judi: you first Karen
Kark: I feel better when I not on for what I accomplish but then again when I need the support of the group I haven't build the bonds and feel like an outsider
judi: yes I feel that way a lot
Kark: wow I am feeling sorry for myself tonight huh
judi: I had a goal to become good with paint shop pro
judi: So I joined the users group
judi: then I volunteered to help with the webring
judi: then the ringmaster quit
judi: so now I am ringmaster
beat|: Well if we have a over all veiw for our lives, then we need to work out the steps we need to take to obtain our goal, then these become smaller goal
judi: its a big mess because everryone has quit
judi: IC beat
judi: so I had to put in long hard hours
judi: became compulsive
judi: last week I hsad a mini srtroke
judi: partly from the pressure I ws feeling
judi: Now I am having to re evaluate
judi: beat
judi: this is an example of a harmful goal
Kark: well you have support here
judi: unrealistic expectations
judi: thanks kark
judi: lily
Lily: u were overloaded by pressure that was not of your making
atrpilot: sorry judi but people take advantage!!!!
Lily: yor original goal was ok
judi: true but I allowed it to happen-expecting more and more of myself everyday
judi: you are right charlie
judi: do any of you feel the need to be accepted in a non handicapped situation?
judi: lily
beat|: Somtimes where never going to reach our main because there so factors come into play beyound our control
Lily: agreed charlie
judi: so very true beat
judi: I think I was looking for acceptance
judi: make sense?
judi: lil
judi: then beat
Lily: are the other psp ppl disabled?
judi: haven't found one yet
Kark: psp?
judi: paint shop pro
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Lily: psp=paint shop pro
Kark: gotcha
judi: anny we are on goals
beat|: Do feel you need that accenpt
judi: ya know I didn't realize it but I do
judi: wonder why?
judi: go on beat
judi: lil
Lily: i think i need that, too, to be recognisedas a person among AB ppl too
judi: ahhh we are getting back to acceptance aren't we
beat|: Is it that where too busy trying tro be accept instead of doin our own thing?
Kark: AB?
Lily: AB=able bodied
judi: cud be beat
judi: lil
Kark: sorry I am slow
judi: no not at all
Lily: but there a little part of me that wants acceptance among AB's too
judi: saddly same here
judi: karen
Kark: iTS AMONG US ALL, i CAN'T SEE ANYONY that belives different
Kark: we all want that acceptance
judi: the need for acceptance?
judi: oh ok
judi: well we have covered a lot of ground tonight
Kark: yes
judi: due to current health status I am closing meeting a bit early
beat|: If we do our own thing we might find that acceeptance comes with it
judi: thank you all for coming and participating
judi: yes beat-is hard though
Lily: thx sis
Kark: Thank you Judi
atrpilot: good meeting judi!!!!
Lily: a great meeting
beat|: ok judi thank
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Kark: yes, And take good care of yourself
judi: thanks you all
judi: I'm trying karen
beat|: God bless
Kark: good
Lily: goodnight everyone
Woz: and thanks for all the hard work judi
judi: thanks beat
Lily: judi, GO TO BAD:)))))))
judi: ur welcome max
Lily: lol, BED
Woz: hehe
judi: bad sounds like more fun-lol
beat|: yes great job
Lily: lol, sorry
Woz: hehe
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Lily: night all:)
judi: night
Kark: night
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