Lonewolf: hi daniel
Mooooooo: hi
beat: Yea i finnally got mine working last nite
Lonewolf: thanks mooooo
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Lonewolf: as soon as everyone gets here we will start
Lonewolf: anyone else over there?
beat: ok
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Lonewolf: hey ms how are you?
MsAmazin: hiya LW...I'm fine
MsAmazin: :)
MsAmazin: you?
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Lonewolf: ok
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Lonewolf: hello everyone the meeting begins now
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Lonewolf: remember when you wish to speak type ! for a statement
Lonewolf: and ? for a question
Gilbert: I can relate to this topic
Lonewolf: Our topic tonight is the weather and disabilities
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Lonewolf: 1. Does the weather effect your disability and how?
Lonewolf: We know that barometric changes effect our body fluids
Lonewolf: yes beat
Lonewolf: Ms go on while beat types
beat: The heat really make my muscles tight
MsAmazin: it doesn't affect my disability, but affects my moods
Lonewolf: wow two biggies back to back
Lonewolf: tight beat?
Lonewolf: Ms for the good or bad?
Lonewolf: Gilbert
MsAmazin: I get kinda gloomy in the winter...I need lots of sunshine
Lonewolf: There's a name for that
Lonewolf: yes winter is hard
Lonewolf: go on Gilbert
Gilbert: Same here, Ms. I can just about feel a high-pressure system move in to replace a low-pressure system. It's my mood that reflects the weather
beat: Yes they get very tight and sore like i have rum a mile
Lonewolf: yup-notice how kids get irritable when a storm approaches=even pets
WonderW: the cold hurts my hip and knees
Lonewolf: my muscles tighten in cold weather and I spasm more
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WonderW: me too
MsAmazin: fortunately, it isn't a drastic mood swing...I'm just abit cranky
Lonewolf: 1. Does the weather effect your disability and how?
Lonewolf: Karen
Kark: My knee swells and hip aches just before a heavy rain
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beat: Yes sorry that the word i meant i get reall bad spasm
Lonewolf: yes increaed body fluids
Lonewolf: oh IC beat
Lonewolf: mush this is the question
Lonewolf: yes, cold weather and rain increases pain (from auto accident and
Lonewolf: also just poor mobility making condition worse)
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Lonewolf: no that wasn't the question-lol
Lonewolf: that was France's answer
Lonewolf: 1. Does the weather effect your disability and how?
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Lonewolf: For me with rheumatoid-I am miserable
Lonewolf: of course rain isn't real easy to get around in either
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Lonewolf: any more comments
Lonewolf: 2. What type of climate do you reside in?
Lonewolf: beat
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Lonewolf: I live in a humid climate
Lonewolf: MS
MsAmazin: desert climate
Lonewolf: envy
beat: WE get very uot weather in the summer and humid
Lonewolf: where is that beat?
Lonewolf: Ky here
MsAmazin: NV
Lonewolf: come on everyone ya gotta live somewhere
beat: Brisbane aus
Kark: NY here
anny1: texas plains very dry
Lonewolf: Karen you must get a lot of humidity too
Lonewolf: I'm going home with you anny
anny1: :)
Lonewolf: WW lives in Ca
Lonewolf: and Moooooo lives in Arizona
Kark: We get snow in the winter, hazy hot and humid in the summer a wet coldy rains early spring and late fall
Lonewolf: atr lives in Missouri
Lonewolf: yes same here but it gets very hot
atrpilot: no so. ILL
Kark: we get all sorts of weater, thats why I love it here verity
Lonewolf: what beat said earlier interested me because my joint pain is always worse in the heat
Lonewolf: oh sorry charlie
Lonewolf: anyone else have that?
atrpilot: same weather as you LW
Lonewolf: Karen
Kark: I don't have pain in heat, Mooooooo do you?
Lonewolf: Max
Woz: guess i march to differnt drum
Lonewolf: how so?
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Woz: warm &dry better
Lonewolf: Ms
WonderW: sometimes I do, but mostly I'm prone to heat exhaustion
MsAmazin: I *love* hot summers
Woz: k
Lonewolf: its very humid in Ky so its a hot humidity
Lonewolf: Karen
MsAmazin: hehe..it's 'dry' 100 degree heat here
Lonewolf: :p
beat: I'm sorry I'm going to have leave you all early see you all bye
Lonewolf: bye
Lonewolf: Sis
Lily: it hot and humid here in summer, bad, i get immobile
Kark: heat exhaution, yes I do tire easy in the heat, I keep the air on
Lonewolf: me too on both comments
Lonewolf: France says
Lonewolf: NY (mediterrean climate of Long Island known as a CSA temperate with
Lonewolf: warm summers and somewhat mild winters that have some cold spells of
Lonewolf: snow and sleet,. Snow and sleet impairs my mobility and so does ice
Lonewolf: as I have poor balance. On ice I require personal assistance. I also
Lonewolf: require that for long distances
Lonewolf: 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with convertible like tops when it rains?
Lonewolf: max
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Woz: want input from pilot
Woz: hot/cold
Woz: humid/dry
Lonewolf: charlie?
Lonewolf: Karen
atrpilot: what?
Lonewolf: Max wants to know how the heat or cold effects you
Kark: To france's statement before Ice is a real problem for me too, bad balance also
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Lonewolf: 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with convertible like tops when it rains?
atrpilot: I agree with all that has been said so far!!!!
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: man of few words
Lonewolf: I have a real problem in rain
Lonewolf: or snow or ice etc
Lonewolf: no top on chair
Kark: I think someone should market wheel chair convertables
Lonewolf: yes
Kark: good Idea
Lonewolf: any solutions from anyone?
Lonewolf: applies also to walkers or crutches
Kark: someday I will say I remember when we first came up with it lol
Lonewolf: ali
Lily: i just have to stay in
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Lonewolf: me too usually
Lonewolf: Ray 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with convertible like tops when it rains?
WonderW: I have an umbrella type cover, but is hard to put on and cumbersome
Lonewolf: Ms
MsAmazin: I stay in ...or get wet!
Lonewolf: same here
MsAmazin: <---crutch user
Lonewolf: gotta be a better solution
Lonewolf: hard to hold umbrella
WonderW: yeah
Lily: yes
Kark: Impossible to hold the umbrella and crutches and my planner
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Lily: channel divides, kark
atrpilot: or someone let a real stinker!!!!
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MsAmazin: hehe..atr
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MsAmazin: I pinged you lily
Lily: lol, pilot
Kark: I think I might have done something
Lily: well, lonewolf cant reconnect to server
Lily: and im lagged
intrepid: I lost connection, too
MsAmazin: no Kark...it happens all on it's own :)
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Lily: kark, it happens all the time
intrepid: 2 secs, Alison
Lily: thx
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MsAmazin: I'm still waiting Lily
Lily: well, lets resume
Lily: hmmmmmmm
Woz: 5secL
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Lily: moo, can you ping everyone?
MsAmazin: ping me
Lonewolf: whew
Lily: k
MsAmazin: thanks
Lonewolf: ok Daniel what happened
Lily: 2 sec ms
Woz: 0sec
Lonewolf: I cudn't get back
Lily: we all been having trouble, judi
Lonewolf: oh so its not just me
MsAmazin: wb everyone :)
Lonewolf: I tried java and it didn't work either
Woz: hehe
Woz: oops
Lily: no:) maybe it theweather:)
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Lonewolf: ok is everyone with us?
Woz: k
Lily: yup
Lonewolf: 4. How many of you have a weather toe or a hand etc?
Lonewolf: open talk guys
Lonewolf: max
Woz: have weather back
Ray-1: I have a weather knee.
Lonewolf: big toe and hip
Kark: me too
Kark: knee & hip
Lily: shoulder
atrpilot: hip
MsAmazin: brain?
Woz: hehe
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: how many of you have told a doctor about it
Lonewolf: lol ms
Woz: k live with it
atrpilot: me
Lonewolf: did the doc take you seriously
Woz: good med answer
Lonewolf: lil
MsAmazin: I haven't discussed it with Drs...but read books from library about it
Lily: actually, ms right, brain swells in humidity
Lonewolf: some docs still scoff at the whole notion
Lily: brb
Lonewolf: yes fluids again
Lonewolf: I'm still back at the wheelchair
Lonewolf: any of you ever tried those umbrella holders?
Kark: for cruches too?
intrepid: yes
Kark: crutchs
Lonewolf: ummmm not sure
Lonewolf: do they work ww
Kark: WW?
intrepid: some are not too sturdy
MsAmazin: I haven't, but in wind, it would blow me over!
Kark: for wheelchair?
intrepid: but some are fine
intrepid: yes
Lonewolf: hum
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Lonewolf: Karen did you have a question for ww?
Kark: I wasn't sure if she ment for crutches or chair
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Lonewolf: 5. How do we cope with these problems on a day to day basis?
Kark: pray for better weather
Lonewolf: lol
Lily: lol
Lonewolf: ok ya got a doc appt and its pouring
Lily: take a cab?
Lonewolf: really need to go but will get soaked
MsAmazin: live in the desert
Lonewolf: sandstorm then
Lonewolf: no cabs
Lily: brb
Kark: well the hadicapped parking helps a little
MsAmazin: drive my car
Lonewolf: sometimes
MsAmazin: and get pelted by sand!
Lonewolf: yuck
MsAmazin: gotta do what you gotta do
Lonewolf: I can manage the getting wet better than seeing the weather forecast and knowing wqhat is going to happen
Kark: mee to Judi
Lonewolf: 6. Can you get out of your home to safety during a hurricane, tornado,
Lonewolf: earthquake, fire, etc?
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Lonewolf: remember we are disabled-cannot crawl out window
Lonewolf: Karen
Kark: I has been on my mind a lot lately
Lily: bye, gotta go
Lonewolf: ok what in particular
Lonewolf: bye sis
Lonewolf: anny
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Kark: I dont think I could get out of my room in a fire situation
MsAmazin: if my life is threatened...I can sure crawl out a window
anny1: i can getout of window when the motivation is right
Lonewolf: yikes-dangerous
Lonewolf: well good point
Lonewolf: adrenalin works wonders
Lonewolf: WW what about you
Lonewolf: I know you are not that mobile
WonderW: I can crawl
Lonewolf: charlie same for you
Kark: I am not sure I could open the window or break the windo
Lonewolf: true but cud you get out of the house
atrpilot: would be hard
WonderW: but not up hogh things or ledges
WonderW: high
Lonewolf: yes
Lonewolf: some places have handicapped stickers to place in windows for firemen etc
Lonewolf: anny
WonderW: I don't know, is hard to get up on knees to open door
anny1: one of the things we have being disabled is added risk as well as the added inconvience, its just the nature of the situation
Lonewolf: yes-my main intent here is just to get you all to think about this and form a plan of sorts
Kark: I have high window and I would have to go head first, my knees don't bend
WonderW: good idea
Lonewolf: true anny
Lonewolf: I have a lifeline and my number and address is registered with emergency services here
Lonewolf: along with a small amount of medical info
Kark: lifeline?
Lonewolf: yes it is an emergecy button I can push if I need help
Kark: cool
mom: it depends on the situation, but remember, in a fire situ you need to stay close to the ground and if possible, cover your head with a wet towel.
Lonewolf: wear it on wrist
Lonewolf: anny
anny1: that is avery good deal to have lw
Lonewolf: yes I highly recommend it to anyone
Lonewolf: My elderly aunt had one and fell and broke her hip-help came very quickly
Lonewolf: they also have a list of people to call
mom: did she have trouble with pushing the button?
Lonewolf: it is nationwide so if anyone wants the info just write me
WonderW: ok
Lonewolf: well actually she fell on her arm (broke it also)
WonderW: what about
mom: my in-law looked into them and they were too awkward with her arthritis
Lonewolf: she was knocked unconscious
Lonewolf: I have it also
WonderW: when you are outside your home?
Lonewolf: yoiu have a choice of a necklace or bracelet
Lonewolf: yes
Lonewolf: not when you are far away but like in your yard etc
WonderW: ok
Lonewolf: anypne else?
Lonewolf: ok please bear with me for a request
Kark: ok
WonderW: ok
Woz: k
Lonewolf: would everyone please join me in a moment of silence for all the people killed in Littleton yesterday
Lonewolf: you may pray if you wish
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Lonewolf: thank you all
Kark: welcome
Lonewolf: meeeting is adjourned
anny1: k
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Kark: its such a traj
WonderW: yes
Lonewolf: yes awful
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