* HelloKit is tired and cranky, but will try not to let
Mimi: i despair of ever understanding these thing simon...
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phoenyxx: Mimi: be happy CBC doesn't have shows like that.
Mooooooo: So whats up all?
phoenyxx: and I envy you, I bet you've got SNOW up there! :-)
gregsgg: hi moooo
Mimi: i'm 1 handed at the moment ;o)
Mooooooo: Simon, someone was here the other day
Mimi: i'm in vegas, simon!
Mooooooo: and i wanted him to talk to you
Mooooooo: hi greg
haa: slowing down after busy holidays
phoenyxx: Mimi: forgot about that :-)
Mooooooo: he was asking about disabilities in the media
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Mimi: hi judi! :o)
Mooooooo: hi judi
judi: Hello everyone
phoenyxx: who was it Daniel?
gregsgg: hi judi
HelloKit: Hi Judi
haa: i am 1 handed all the time, mimi
phoenyxx: hello Judi
haa: hi judi
* HelloKit kicks ChanServ in the butt.
Mooooooo: i cant recall his name
Mimi: chanserv: :oPPPPPPP
Mooooooo: but if he asks again, i'll give him your email
HelloKit: AOL Mimi?
phoenyxx: good idea
phoenyxx: AOHell you mean.
Mimi: yeah, carly...
Mimi: mom didnt pay lvdi's bill
Mimi: they cut us off :o)
judi: Are we having a meeting tonight?
Mooooooo: just an open topic tonight Judi :o)
HelloKit: An open topic meeting...
judi: which means?
gregsgg: moooooo what aws in the media ?
Mooooooo: which means we can say whats on our mind :o)
gregsgg: there I said it
phoenyxx: ask Mimi about my jokes :-)
HelloKit: Nothing on my mind... never is. It doesn't work. :oP
haa: i am guessing we have sent email, judi, i am helen aull
* Mimi never, but never, get's Simons' jokes
judi: Ues, the puter prayer person!!:)
Mooooooo: my computer needs prayer
phoenyxx: Mimi, you do get the jokes about using moving trucks to help encourage ADA compliance :-)
Mimi: my life needs prayer
Mimi: no, Simon :oP
judi: My hands need prayer
gregsgg: moooooo what aboutt the guy and the media?
phoenyxx: Carly- I was going to ask, has anyone from the newsgroup made their way to the mailing list? hoping to avoid the nuclear flaming that I saw over the summer :-)
Mooooooo: thats all i know greg, some guy asked
phoenyxx: I produce a TV show on local cable here in San Antonio, nothing grandiose but it's alot of fun.
judi: Does anyone have the after Christams yucko's?
HelloKit: Nope, not yet Simon. If any of that crap starts, I'll have them yanked and blocked from the mailing list so fast they won't know what hit 'em.
phoenyxx: judi- I do- BAD allergy flareup!
Mimi: yes, Judi, I sure do :o)
judi: Christmas, sorry
judi: Anybody got a cure??
Mimi: but beleive it or not I lost not gained weight, so it's not so bad ;o)
judi: How lucky Mimi
Mooooooo: the cure is ....
phoenyxx: good Carly- I can only handle so much discussion about who's parking permits are stolen :-)
Mooooooo: i dunno
judi: Gee thanks Daniel
Mooooooo: but im working on theories
judi: That's better
phoenyxx: I did wake up one morning feeling so bad I thought I saw a raven at the window and I thought I heard 'Don't Fear the Reaper' on the radio :-)
judi: What about you Ha
Mimi: well, Alex gets a lot of my calories so that helps :o)
HelloKit: lol Simon
judi: Way to go Mimi
phoenyxx: Carly- you saw that movie too? :-)
HelloKit: Uh... no, but for some odd reason I got it.
gregsgg: some one called me the other day they are putting togathera class axion law suit against pete wilson for bborrowing fuunds for school diabelys and not paying it back
haa: i have been into email since the list went live
judi: But isn't the list kinda dead right now?
HelloKit: It's literally dead right now :o)
Mooooooo: the list will be back tomorrow
HelloKit: Will be back up tomorrow.
Mooooooo: the admin accidently killed it
judi: Good, I enjoyed it
haa: today dead, judi
judi: I always seem to have post holiday arthritis flares
Mooooooo: why is that judi?
haa: i did write to the lady doing the book on disabled women
judi: I think I overdo during the holidays, that's my theory anyway
judi: Hey, I did to haa
judi: too, sorry
Mimi: I enjoyed reading your intro, Judi :o)
Mimi: I'm going to do one too, soon
judi: Mimi, you didn't send one
judi: Oh, ok
judi: What about the rest of you guys?
Mimi: I think it's a great idea, I hope more people do that :o)
HelloKit: Helen and Judy... I'm glad somebody wrote to her... a whole bunch of people wrote back to me instead. :o/
haa: i did one for the book and sent info to a few others
Mimi: bye greg :o)
judi: Bye greg
Mimi: I wrote to a writer wanting to know what a seizure was like
HelloKit: heh, what did you tell her?
Mimi: then people on the epilepsy list got mad at me and told me it was none of his business and that I should have charged him a consultants fee :o(
judi: Oh good grief, some people are never happy
Mimi: some people never are
HelloKit: Oh good grief...
judi: That was good of you to share your experience with others
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Mimi: I really went into detail, now I wish I had kept my letter to give to other curious people
judi: When my son was having seizures, I had people ask me some strange things
Mimi: wb Simon
Mimi: like what?
judi: What does he look like while........How does it feel to see your son like that? etc
phoenyxx: pardon my ignorance, but why is info about epilepsy supposed to be so secret?
Mimi: lol I don't know simon
judi: Since I was working then, a lot of my co-nurses asked if I remained clinically calm, etc
phoenyxx: the more people know about different disabilities, the more accepting they'll be, usually.
Mooooooo: because of our secret milkshake recipe meetings
Mimi: a lot of epileptics deal with shame about the disease...holdover from the days when we were 'posessed by the devil'
judi: My thoughts exactly Simon
Mimi: lol daniel
phoenyxx: judi- the 'secrecy' reminds me of the idiocy on misc.handicap- so much flaming because a couple of people have to share the spotlight with all the other disabled people out there.
phoenyxx: Mimi: what year was this again?
judi: I haven't been there, a newsgroup?
Mimi: what year? uummm, Roman times, the middle ages...
phoenyxx: judi: yeah, there's a newsgroup but it's effectively run by a couple of self-proclaimed moderators.
phoenyxx: who flame legit disabled people as frauds.
Mimi: yes, don't bother judi...all they do is complain about parking ;o)
HelloKit: Yes, Judi... a newsgroup where each person is the only one allowed to be disabled and reap the 'benefits'.
judi: I understand Mimi, everyone, esp kids at school, started treating Andy different
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judi: Glad I haven't been there
phoenyxx: they flamed me- like the space shuttle re-entering the atmosphere!
Mimi: yeah, people get weird for a while when I tell them
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judi: Andy had a cyst in the R) temporal lobe and hasn't had a seizure since it was removed
HelloKit: Well, well, well! ChanServ decides to let go of Mimi's crown!
Mimi: *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mimi
Mimi: Amber :o)
phoenyxx: some of the people in the ng literally think that alot of the people in wheelchairs they see are somehow carrying out some massive hoax, assuming everyone is guilty.
judi: hi Amber
phoenyxx: hey amber.
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HelloKit: Hi Amber, Ray
judi: Hi Ray
Mooooooo: hi ray
HelloKit: open, Amber
Mimi: hi Ray
Amber--: hello, weve gotta get togethr?
Mimi: how are ya? :o)
Ray1: Mimi, how's the baby?
Amber--: i love midi karaoke too
Mooooooo: yep, but open topic
Mimi: he's just fine, thanks, Ray :o)
judi: Oh, I just love being in a chair, it opens you up to close scrutiny from everyone and you get to run into everything and everyone around. Sure is my idea of a great hoax.
Amber--: hey, simle
phoenyxx: judi: I know, but it's amazing how some of the meanest people I've ever met have been other disabled people- a small faction that hates the rest of us!
Amber--: gotta question
phoenyxx: I don't know- I've seen it so bad that I got accused because I did wheelies on TV>gt;
phoenyxx: go with the quesiton amber
judi: weird, Simon
Mooooooo: okie :o)
Amber--: any advice for a sociology project on disability?
phoenyxx: amber: the future of disability, like the next disabled president :-)
phoenyxx: well..... :-)
judi: Amber, isn't this 2 nights in a row you've made me use my brain, or was it someone else last night?!!
HelloKit: Hmm... I did a project on disabilities for my psychology class. I covered things like disability humor, etc.
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phoenyxx: Carly: ah the humor, one thing some able-bodied people get REALLY nervous about :-)
judi: Societies reaction to the disabled?
phoenyxx: the cartoonist, right?
judi: How about reactions to non-visible handicaps?
judi: Like epilepsy?
HelloKit: I used a couple Callahan cartoons in my presentation.
haa: that is hard, judi
judi: Or arthritis before it causes physical changes
judi: Even MS
phoenyxx: excellent topic idea judi- I was at a support group meeting where 4 guys sat around commending themselves on having run everyone out of the group who wasn't in a wheelchair.
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phoenyxx: pi**ed me off even though I'm in a chair, first and last meeting I went to.
Dancer: im looking 4 something that'll help me and others
judi: People with fibromyalgia
phoenyxx: because to me, a disability, visible or not, is real no matter what it is.
judi: What is your disability Dancer?
HelloKit: Simon, you just brought something to mind...
* HelloKit goes into gripe mode.
judi: Arthritis Today (magazine) has a lot about non-visible handicaps
Mimi: uh oh ;o)
Dancer: cp quad spastic
phoenyxx: oh no! sorry about that carly!
phoenyxx: sorry to hear that Dancer- pardon my bad jokes.
HelloKit: I am getting so sick of all the 'retired citizens' giving me dirty looks for taking the last disabled parking spot, as if I'm the one who doesn't deserve the sticker...
* phoenyxx has the katana ready....
judi: I'm thinking, Dancer
phoenyxx: oh carly you hit it right on the head- same thing happens to me!
* Dancer hugs everone.
haa: i am close to a quad but i can not dance, dancer
* Mimi hugs Amber :o)
judi: Used to happen to me, nit anymore, arthritis has aged me fast
phoenyxx: I saw a pickup truck in a handicapped spot with a handicapped plate, except that the driver was unloading heavy office furniture from it!
* Mooooooo hugs Amber back
HelloKit: And since I don't use a w/c on a regular basis, but my walking is affected, I get looks because it's hard to tell I'm disabled unless you can see my hands.
haa: i hug dancer
Dancer: dancing is an attitude, haa
phoenyxx: hugs to dancer :-)
Dancer: use /me haa
haa: i dance in my mind
judi: Hugs are great, but she needs an idea for her topic!!
Dancer: hellokit e me bout midi kar
judi: Oh haa, you just made me think of running-I run in my mind.
phoenyxx: topic idea- how about universal issues that 'transcend' individual disabilities.
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Mimi: brb baby sick
phoenyxx: transportation, social attitudes, accessability and accomodation, etc, and how those things are issues applicable to all disable people to varying degrees.
haa: how to help others get more comfortable with us like poetry or quotes
judi: He has a point Dancer
Dancer: very good ppoint
phoenyxx: for example, I'm in a chair and obviously I'm concerned about parking, transportation, and being able to get around, but that doesn't make me less understanding about the things I might not need but someone else might.
phoenyxx: if that makes sense.
phoenyxx: some people get so obsessed with things being 'only for handicapped people' that they end up exluding alot of people that need those things!
phoenyxx: excluding I mean.
Mimi: ok, I'm back
Dancer: im thinking of peer relationships
phoenyxx: now that's a good topic :-)
Dancer: or something
Mimi: yeah, one guy complained because my 94 yr old grandmother who uses a walker has a parking sticker
phoenyxx: peers as in disabled among other disabled or disabled among non-disabled.
Dancer: like both?
phoenyxx: even better :-)
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Mooooooo: brb, not feeling well, need food
phoenyxx: Mimi: back in October when I saw 'Starship Troopers' with my mom I used my mirror tag, only to find the sidewalk blocked by the massive rear bumper of a Chevy Suburban because the owner had parked it in the space so that
phoenyxx: the back end of it extended over the curb and over the sidewalk. and it had a handicapped plate on it!
judi: I liked your idea too,haa. The general public has trouble being comfortable with us
Mimi: LOL Simon if you went to see 'Starship Troopers' , you deserved it
Dancer: has an1 ever tried
phoenyxx: Mimi: the point is, I was using my permit tag legally and still had trouble getting in, and what was wrong with the movie?
phoenyxx: judi: the general public had better get used to us.
Mimi: I got your point...I was joking, because it was the worst movie inthe history of cinema
Dancer: non platonic rel. as a projet?
judi: Used to and comfortable are 2 different things
Mimi: usually those projects fail for me Amber :o)
phoenyxx: no Mimi that would be 'Waterworld' :-) or as I call it, 'Like Road Warrior only with boats'. :-)
Mimi: I'm trying to salvage one of those projects at the moment, actually
Mimi: I totally disagree Simon
Mimi: at least Waterworld wasn't so cornball
phoenyxx: Dancer: I don't have a girlfriend but I've become good friends with a couple of women, and the chair is no big deal, in fact they assure me my chances at finding a girlfriend are good :-)
Dancer: trying to keep 1 alive despite odds
phoenyxx: Mimi: but 'Starship Troopers' wasn't someone's personal film project :-)
Dancer: new topic
phoenyxx: pardon me for making light of things Dancer.
phoenyxx: I was only trying to help, I promise.
Dancer: i know
Mimi: yes...well I haven't been in quite that situation but I have a couple of things to say about that...
Mimi: 1) Love conquers all
Mimi: 2) His will, will be done
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* HelloKit returns, looking much more comfortable.
Mimi: wb Carly :o)
judi: Amen, Mimi
* phoenyxx agrees with Mimi :-)
haa: his will will not be done at my house, mimi
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Dancer: not a Christian, haa?
haa: if i love him that does not mean i must do what he tells me to
Mimi: Haa 'his' = Jesus
judi: Husband or God?
phoenyxx: time for me to go, see you all later, and happy new year :-)
Mimi: 2) His will, will be done = god's will will be done
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Dancer: new topic