Disabilities-R-Us

Created by and for people with physical disabilities.

Tips and Tricks

Aug 07, 1997

This is an archival transcript of one of our past meetings. We don't have scheduled topical meetings anymore, but we're not opposed to the idea of bringing them back if someone is willing to commit to hosting them on a "long term" basis.

Participants already present:
  Disabled- ([email protected])
  Red_
  Windrift
  ChanServ ([email protected])
  DopeHat ([email protected])
  HelloKit ([email protected])
  AmyWonder ([email protected])
  Mimi_ ([email protected])
  Mooooooo ([email protected])
  Disabled ([email protected])
  Mooooooo via Telnet ([email protected])
Mimi_: NOT
Mooooooo: Carly, I started the log/
HelloKit: Okay thanks...
Mimi_: yeah, Tracy, summer's about over here
HelloKit: SO ARE WE READY TO START?
Mimi_: yes :o)
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Red_: sounds like it
* DopeHat slaps ChanServ around a bit with Mr. Limpit.
AmyWonder: yeas
Red_: ok
AmyWonder: I mean, yes
HelloKit: OKAY, IN MY E-MAIL SUNDAY I ASKED EVERYONE TO COME UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THEY'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH, SO THAT MAYBE WE COULD SHARE SOME TRICKS WITH EACH OTHER...
HelloKit: DID ANYONE COME UP WITH ANYTHING?
Mooooooo: I have trouble turning my head far when driving
Red_: I need help stretching my hamstring
Mooooooo: So I have a full length rearview mirror
HelloKit: Tracy, do you have some kind of step or block of wood about 2 - 3 inches high?
Mimi_: full length? the full length of what?
Red_: I could come up w/something
HelloKit: I usually stand leaning on something, put the front of my foot on a step, and push my heel down.
Mooooooo: instead of a 12' mirroe, it goes all the way across the front of the car
Mooooooo: er screen
Mimi_: hey, that's cool...no blind spots?
Red_: I'll try it
Red_: thanks
Mooooooo: nope
Mimi_: sounds like a good idea for anyone :o)
Red_: but my ackles are fused
HelloKit: Hmm... it may not work then.
HelloKit: MOOOOOOO, DO YOU USE ANY OTHER DRIVING ADAPTATIONS?
Mooooooo: Nope, just the mirrow
Mooooooo: mirror
* HelloKit nods.
HelloKit: OKAY, I HAVE A PUZZLE FOR YOU GUYS...
Red_: I use tools to dress...ie...socks, shoes, etc
Red_: also for clipping toe nails
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DopeHat: ok carly
Mimi_: Hello capwriter :o)
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Mimi_: heya Han! :o)
HelloKit: I LIKE TO WALK TO STAY IN SHAPE, BUT BECAUSE I WALK UP ON THE BALLS OF MY FEET, I ALWAYS END UP WITH PAINFUL BLISTERS ON MY FEET AFTER WALKING...
HelloKit: AND THEN CAN'T WALK AGAIN FOR ABOUT A WEEK.
capwriter: hi, mimi. how's it going?
Mimi_: fine, thanks, and you?
Red_: bummer Carly
Red_: walk shorter distance more often
DopeHat: is that with shoes
Mooooooo: Carly, here is what you do
capwriter: Okay, but broiling in a heat wave in L.A.
Lao-tzu: hi ya'll (again, ...Moo tells me i'm a laggard :-)
HelloKit: WITH TENNIS SHOES AND SOCKS.
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Mooooooo: Put on 2 pairs of socks, one thin one inside and one thicker one outside
gimp1: hi
Mooooooo: this will help keep from getting blisters
Lao-tzu: hi again gimp
Mimi_: try some 'Second Skin' Carly
Red_: gimp1, I like you name
Mimi_: heya gimp1 :o)
capwriter: welcome, gimp1.
AmyWonder: sit ups legg streachs, instead of walking
gimp1: we all here now and not lagged?
HelloKit: Cool, I'll try that.
Mooooooo: yep :o)
gimp1: /
Mooooooo: Carly, this is what we hikers do :o)
HelloKit: LOL
Mooooooo: the idea is that the two pairs of socks do all the rubbing and then your skin doesnt
* HelloKit nods.
HelloKit: That makes sense.
gimp1: what's everyones disability?
Mimi_: also baby powder or corn starch on your feet, to reduce friction
* Mimi_ has epilepsy
* HelloKit has arthrogryposis multiplex congenita... AMC is
Mooooooo: corn starch will feed the fungus on your feet
* Lao-tzu is a T6 para
Mooooooo: not good
Red_: lol, Carly do you have that memorized or what?
HelloKit: LOL, I don't need that... that's for sure.
Mimi_: it will? I use it on my baby
* Mooooooo has (see Carly's)
* DopeHat has MD
HelloKit: It's a script, Tracy.
capwriter: I have CP with a speech and gait problems.
Red_: I also have AMC
HelloKit: SO, MORE CHALLENGES, ANYONE?
gimp1: i have severe cp
Windrift: I have SB
Mooooooo: I find that hiking poles also help with hiking
Red_: sb?
gimp1: incontinence
* HelloKit can't hold onto sticks or canes or anything
Windrift: Spina Bifida
Red_: oh ok
HelloKit: Gonna be fun when I'm old...
Red_: lol
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AmyWonder: cp
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HelloKit: DOES SOMEONE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?
Lao-tzu: gimp, you have a SCI?
gimp1: cerebral palsy and spinal stinosis
Lao-tzu: I'm asking because of incontinence = neurogenic bladder & bowel in my case
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mon_ange: there i finally found you guys
AmyWonder: how do you locck an unlock a deadblot
HelloKit: I use my teeth, Amy.
DopeHat: careful
Mimi_: heya Angel :o)
mon_ange: hey mimi hows it going?
Mimi_: great, and you?
mon_ange: great
DopeHat: thats nuts
mon_ange: i tried like two different newnet servers and i still couldnt get here but i remembered this server so i tried it and it finally worked
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Mimi_: we're glad you made it Angel :o)
mon_ange: thanks
mon_ange: im glad i made it too
DopeHat: i know some tips about win95
Mimi_: cool, Keith, let us have it :o)
AmyWonder: do you use an adaptive device to hold the key
HelloKit: Amy do you have Win 95?
DopeHat: its in accessability options
AmyWonder: nope. a power mac
DopeHat: one is sticky keys
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Mimi_: Hello Maya :o)
Lao-tzu: hi maya
HelloKit: Maya, watch...
Maya: hihi
Maya: yeah, hang on :)
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HelloKit: Oh sure, now it won't do it... LOL
mon_ange: doesnt it figure? lol
DopeHat: it locks alt, shift, or ctrl
Maya: Mooooooooooooo
Maya: good news babes
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Maya: Mooooooooooooo
Maya: good news babes
HelloKit: Maybe it's straightened out?
Maya: chelms is being cranky today
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Maya: Mooo
Maya: could you do what you needed to do by ftp?
DopeHat: so you just push it once and not hold it
Red_: K4babes?
gimp1: anyone going to an ability expo
HelloKit: gimp1: I've always wanted to...
HelloKit: Don't have the time or the money though.
Mimi_: does it unlock after you push one key, Keith?
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Mooooooo: Maya? You see my /msg?
Maya: yeah
DopeHat: yes
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Mimi_: I'm going to try it, too
Mimi_: Jeff!
Mimi_: welcome, Jeff :o)
DopeHat: push twice it stays on
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HelloKit: Push a third time and it turns off again.
DopeHat: push again to take it off
Mimi_: sounds like it would work well just for bad typers, like me :o)
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HelloKit: Oh boy, we're not having a good evening...
gimp1: im gone the one in washington
Mimi_: yeah, Carly, what a day to have all this happen
AmyWonder: when
HelloKit: WELL, SHALL I TRY ANOTHER OF MY QUESTIONS?
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Mimi_: yes Carly :o)
DopeHat: theres filter keys
Mimi_: what does that do Keith?
DopeHat: never used it
Mimi_: ok *LOL*
DopeHat: but i'll tell ya
HelloKit: OKAY. I FINALLY FOUND A BIKE I CAN RIDE. IT'S CALLED STEP 'N GO, AND RATHER THAN PEDALLING IN A CIRCLE YOU STEP UP AND DOWN.
Red_: K4cool
Red_: k4I mean...Cool
Red_: cool
gimp1: sept 14-16
HelloKit: THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, THE BASIC BIKE WITHOUT ANY ADD-ON'S IS $1100.
Mimi_: whoa!
HelloKit: ANY IDEAS ON HOW I CAN RAISE MONEY FOR THIS?
Mimi_: gotta sell more computers Carly :o)
HelloKit: LOL
Red_: I hate the fact that money is such an issue
Mooooooo: job :o)
DopeHat: ignore breif or repeated keystrokes
Maya: ok :)
Mimi_: that's good too :o)
DopeHat: togglekeys
HelloKit: I know Daniel, but that's going toward an apartment. I want to raise this separately.
AmyWonder: A car wash
Mooooooo: 2 jobs? :o)
HelloKit: LOL... Can we say, 'Dead Carly'?
DopeHat: tones when pressing capslock, numlock, and scroll lock
Red_: Here in CA., we go out w/a sign saying, 'I need money'
HelloKit: ROFL
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HelloKit: I should try that... j/k
Red_: what is ROFL?
DopeHat: mimi go to control panel
HelloKit: rolling on floor laughing
Mimi_: rolling on the floor laughing
Mimi_: jinx!
Mimi_: that's two you owe me junior
HelloKit: Aaaaaargghhh!!!!!!!
* HelloKit slaps Mimi_ around a bit with a ripe catfish.
Red_: now girls!
* Mimi_ slaps HelloKit around a bit with a can of tuna.
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Mimi_: what do you want me to do in the control panel, Keith?
Mimi_: wb Jeff! :o)
HelloKit: SOMEONE ELSE WANT TO ASK A QUESTION?
Pyro: wb?
capwriter: ouch! That mimi's a violent one.
* Mimi_ hands Carly a bandaid *grin*
DopeHat: look at accessability options
HelloKit: OR NOT?
Mooooooo: i didnt come up with any
Pyro: why are you typing in purple?
HelloKit: To stand out when asking questions, Jeff.
Mooooooo: she has a bruise :o)
HelloKit: Sort of a moderator's microphone... :o)
HelloKit: :oP Mooooooo
Pyro: welp i can't see it unforunately
HelloKit: Then how did you know it was purple?
Mimi_: I have to restart the computer to do it, so I'll wait until after the meeting and then try it
Pyro: i had to telnet to this account to get on here
Pyro: it's barely legible
HelloKit: Ahhh...
Lao-tzu: Mimi, you should change your page to show the map of Quebec where you live, not the gov't page ;-)
HelloKit: Is there a better color?
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Red_: red is bright
Mimi_: *LOL* Han you're absolutely right, I should :o)
Mimi_: I got lazy :o)
Lao-tzu: Gorgeous flowers though!
Pyro: nope still to damn unreadable
HelloKit: How about this purple?
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Mimi_: Daniel did you see that??? <Lao-tzu> Gorgeous flowers though!
Mooooooo: Hiya Skya
Sky-Away: Hi Mimi
Sky-Away: Hi Moooooooo
Red_: I love the flowers too
Mimi_: Hey Sky!! :o)
Mooooooo: Did I see what?
Sky-Away: MAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lao-tzu: HelloKit: ....haaaze
Mimi_: everyone loves the flowers you sent me, Daniel :o)
Mimi_: thanks guys, they were from Mooooooo
Mooooooo: oh!
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gimp1: nite
HelloKit: Jeff?
Mooooooo: see ya gimp1!
mon_ange: well all i gotta get going. my brother and sister-in-law are gonna be here soon....although they were supposed to be here 3 hours ago.
Mimi_: g'night, gimp1 :o)
Pyro: yeah?
Mimi_: hurry back Angel! :o)
Red_: nite
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HelloKit: How about this purple?
Sky-Away: ill bb
mon_ange: i'll try to come back tomorrow nite
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Mooooooo: bye Angel!!!
* Mooooooo dips mon_ange and gives her tender smoochies!
mon_ange: no guarantees
mon_ange: awww
mon_ange: nite nite
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Mimi_: that's better Carly
HelloKit: READY FOR ANOTHER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS?
AmyWonder: you kiss everybody moo!
Mimi_: go for it Carly
Red_: go Carly
Lao-tzu: HelloKit: with that purple it'll stay haaazzY
Mooooooo: Yep!!!
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* Mooooooo dips Amy and gives her tender smoochies!
Mooooooo: too
AmyWonder: kis kiss back
HelloKit: OKAY... CHRIS AND I GET BORED A LOT JUST HANGING AROUND AT HOME ALL DAY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO WASTE, AND IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO DO AROUND HERE THAT DOESN'T COST MONEY... I CAN'T DO.
Mooooooo: woohoo
Mooooooo: Carly, go back to the old purple
HelloKit: WHAT DO YOU DO TO GET AWAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER?
Mimi_: Carly, get married *big grin*
Maya: Hello: get some fish :)
Mooooooo: lol
* Maya lubs watching her fishies
HelloKit: LOL
Red_: read
Mooooooo: Yeah Carly, thats good for 10 hours a day
Red_: you better get married!
Mooooooo: I go hiking
HelloKit: WELL, I'M LOOKING MORE FOR THINGS WE CAN DO TOGETHER.
Red_: swim?
Pyro: kit: you don't want my opinion :P~
Mooooooo: Necking is fun
HelloKit: WE SPEND ALL DAY DOING OUR SEPARATE THINGS, AND SOMETIMES WE GET IN BIG ARGUMENTS OVER IT.
HelloKit: LOL
AmyWonder: music. dancing in the ac
Mimi_: *l*
* DopeHat won't say
Mimi_: I think we have a consensus, Carly :o)
Red_: take up drinking?
Red_: lol
HelloKit: LOL
Mimi_: too expensive
Pyro: it just involves getting neked :P
Mooooooo: Card games
Mooooooo: trips to the park
HelloKit: Heh... no place to go skinny dipping around here.
HelloKit: Chris detests card games and board games.
Red_: put photo album together
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HelloKit: He won't play them no matter how much I beg and plead.
Pyro: kit: hrm think about that, i'm a guy, and i said it involves getting neked... think abpit that..
Pyro: abpit = about
HelloKit: I know Pyro...
DopeHat: three letter word starts with s..
Red_: daaaaa
Mimi_: she knows guys! sheesh!
HelloKit: I know what you mean, I'm just not going to grace it with acknowledgement.
* Mimi_ slaps DopeHat around a bit with a ripe catfish.
* Mimi_ slaps Pyro around a bit with a bowl of jello.
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Upsilon: heylo
Mimi_: that;s why I said 'get married!' DUH!
Mooooooo: What about giving time to charity?
DopeHat: hey i didn't say
Red_: these guys are a little slow
Mimi_: heya Upsilon!!!!
Upsilon: mooooooooooooooooooooo]]]]]]]]]]]]]
HelloKit: There isn't anything in Hoodyville, Mooooooo.
Mooooooo: heya ups :o)
Upsilon: hey there mimi
Lao-tzu: hi upsi
Mimi_: no kidding Tracy...sheesh :o)
Upsilon: hi carly
Mimi_: gotta love em though :o)
Red_: move Carly!
Upsilon: long time no type
DopeHat: you better
HelloKit: I can't move!!!
Red_: I do Mimi, but sometimes...
HelloKit: I wish I could, believe me...
Mimi_: yeah, sometimes...
Red_: why not?
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HelloKit: No money.
HelloKit: Stuck at home still.
Red_: there's that M word again!
HelloKit: See?
Upsilon: money? whats that?
Upsilon: 8P
* Mimi_ has that problem too
Lao-tzu: you can always assign the french meaning to it -- Me*rd*
Red_: save...big time
DopeHat: theres not a damn thing to do here either
Red_: borrow money!
Mooooooo: yeah!
Mooooooo: borrow
Mimi_: or steal *grin*
Red_: ok, steal
Lao-tzu: keep the economy growing
Mimi_: j/k :o)
Red_: lol
Upsilon: brb
Mooooooo: stimulate the economy by maxing out Visa/MC
Red_: the American way!
Mimi_: yes!
Mimi_: the Canadian way too!
Lao-tzu: then go chapter 11?
HelloKit: LOL... Chris has done plenty of that.
Mimi_: perfect, we have your answer Carly :o)
Red_: don't you have any income?
Upsilon: Warning ups is back
AmyWonder: how abouut taking drives just around town?
DopeHat: go to school
Mimi_: Carly, how about getting more active in web development?
Mimi_: wb Ups :o)
HelloKit: Working on it...
Lao-tzu: Lazarus Long said 'in life take big bytes, moderation is for monks!'
Mooooooo: lol
Upsilon: lol
Red_: what about SSDI?
Mimi_: BRB
HelloKit: Begins in Sep., Tracy.
Upsilon: ssdi is barely anything red
Red_: great!
Red_: depends of course on resent income
Red_: I do pretty good
HelloKit: $485/month for me
Red_: also houseing is available
HelloKit: Yup, looking into HUD.
Red_: I live in a nice building...$200 a month
Upsilon: i'm living in a HUD apartment right now
Upsilon: its an independent living situation
Red_: it would be lower for you
Red_: mine too
Mooooooo: um whats SSDI?
Red_: social security disability insurance
Mooooooo: ah, ok
DopeHat: thats if you worked
Maya: hmmm
* HelloKit is actually getting SSI
Maya: thought that was short for Not Enough
DopeHat: if not ssi
Mooooooo: lol
* Pyro is idle, automatically dead bX(l/on p/off)]
Red_: lol
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Lao-tzu: sounds technical to me
HelloKit: And I in no way intend to use it forever. I'm gonna get out on my own, get a van and learn how to drive so I can get a decent job.
HelloKit: No one around here will hire someone who doesn't drive.
Upsilon: well folks gotta go, take care
Red_: good for you Carly, you can do it
Upsilon: C U
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Lao-tzu: bye upsi
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AmyWonder: good, caryl
Mooooooo: wb cap
AmyWonder: Ii gotta go
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